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From: Suzanne Sommerville <>
Subject: Re: [Q-R] PIERRE GODIN en Nouvelle-France
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 12:36:26 -0800 (PST)


And do not forget the pay d'en haut, the country reached by traveling up river from the mother colony (historians are now calling it the Upper Country) that became Michigan, Wisconsin, Indiana, Illinois along the Mississippi River, etc. That, too, was Nouvelle France.
 
Time for some map work:
http://www.tlfq.ulaval.ca/axl/francophonie/Nlle-France_carte1713.htm
http://www.civilization.ca/cmc/explore/virtual-museum-of-new-france/cartography/map-of-new-france-ca-1720 
 
Stephen White's work on Acadian genealogy documents the movement of several individuals and families between the St. Lawrence valley and Acadia.
 
Our ancestors also traveled to the then American colonies far more often than has been realized, at times going with official permission.
Suzanne

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Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2011 13:27:36 -0500
From: John Sullivan <>
Subject: Re: [Q-R] PIERRE GODIN en Nouvelle-France
To: Mona Andr?e Rainville <>
Cc: Joan <>,
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Thank you, Mona, for this clear and concise presentation reminding us that
"it was all New France" which included the Province of Canada, the Province
of Acadia, and eventually the Province of *?La Louisiane? *
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Mona Andr?e Rainville
<>wrote:
> Hello Joan and all,
>
> The danger, and I mean this is the kindest of ways, of databases such as
> the PRDH and the Fichier Origine, is that they introduce a distortion in
> the perception we have of territorial New France and the interrelation,
> the interdependence, of French communities on the continent. They
> unwittingly create a research blind spot.
>
> Unlike today where the respective initial territory is ruled by one of
> nearly ten different provincial and two territorial governments, it was
> all New France back then.
>
> The Province of Acadia and the Province of Canada were never separate
> countries or, I'll venture to say even separate destinations, in the
> minds of most settlers. Once landed, a settler was free to move to any
> part of New France he wished to go, provided he was now free of his
> contractual or military obligations. And many did.
>
> Even when they stayed put, you'll find many families who had ties in
> both provinces, and even, in some cases, with Louisiana or the Islands.
> Some of these ties were familial. They had relatives in different part
> of the country.
>
> The great divide between Acadia and the rest of New France occurred very
> late in the game, so late in fact that it is inconsequential to
> genealogy.  The ultimate event which distinguished the Acadians from the
> Canadians was their deportation and the resulting diaspora. It is this
> diaspora, and their refusal to die in servitude, which has forged the
> "national" identity ascribed to the descendants of the initial settlers
> of this region of New France.
>
> And the danger associated with territorially confined databases is not
> so much that they don't tell the whole story. It is that most people
> believe that they do.
>
> With respect for the opinions of those who'll disagree,
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mona
>
>
>
> Joan wrote:
> > Thanks. I find this info intriguing. I wonder how many other folks are
> among the
> > settlers of both Quebec and Acadia. Although I knew that some Acadians
> fled to
> > Quebec after the deporations, I always thought the original settlers were
> two
> > separate groups of individuals.
> >
> > Anyone else have info on Pierre or others like him?
> >
> > Joan
> >
> >


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