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From: Mona Andrée Rainville <>
Subject: Re: [Q-R] Bonneterre
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 11:42:01 -0500
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Let's just say Linda received a full answer from me.
And so did you.
James LaLone wrote:
> Yes, thanks, I thought she was just trying to get a translation of the
> name, not a whole document, thanks, Jim.
> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Mona Andrée Rainville
> < <mailto:>> wrote:
> Quite simply, James,
> In doing the formal translation of a document, names are never
> This, of course, does not mean that names are not transformed,
> transmogriphied, disguised, morphed, or altogether changed by
> their bearers or persons around them.
> One of most usual way of "tuning" a name to its new environment is
> to make it sound like it belongs there, like it fits in. It is
> not, strictly speaking, a translation even if in some case, such
> as your Roi/King, the result is the same. At times, it also
> simply involved giving it a different pronunciation closer to a
> name better known in these parts, like Mikaelchuk becoming McCullough.
> The point is, it would not be grammatically correct, if one is
> translating a document from French to English, to translate "Jean
> Roi" to "John King", or vice versa, a Mary Black is not a Marie
> Does that answer your question, James,
> James LaLone wrote:
>> Mona, could you please elaborate on your statement "someone is
>> bound to point out that proper names are not to translated". I
>> have seen surnames translated such as ROY to KING.
>> Thanks, Jim.
>> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Mona Andrée Rainville
>> < <mailto:>> wrote:
>> Hello Linda,
>> I am sure someone is bound to point out that proper names are
>> not to
>> But, "bonne terre", which means "good earth", could have become
>> "Goodearth" or even "Goodland" to someone less tuned to the
>> finer rules
>> of grammar... ;-)
>> <mailto:> wrote:
>> > Hello list,
>> > Could someone tell me what the "name" Bonneterre
>> translates to in English.
>> > Thanks!
>> > Linda