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From: Luc-Pierre Laferrière<>
Subject: Re: [Q-R] Old French Writing & the letter "f"
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 11:13:35 -0400
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Please Mona do not add to this.



A trop vouloir en mettre le verre déborde... et le plus souvent ce qui déborde c'est de la broue !



Merci



Luc-Pierre



PS. Moi je prononce Bru(c)elle et ce n'est pas un régionalisme.

Ce qui importe c'est que l'on comprenne de quoi on parle!





> To:
> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 11:04:16 -0400
> From:
> CC:
> Subject: Re: [Q-R] Old French Writing & the letter "f"
>
> Mona,
>
> 1. I am aware that the Petit Robert and Larousse dictionaries both
> indicate that Bruxelles is pronounced
> Bru(ss)elles.
>
> 2. I am also aware that people whose native language is English
> (whatever the nation of origin) will read that citation in the Petit
> Robert or the Larousse and pronounce the final S, which is not the
> correct pronunciation. That is what the students did when I started
> teaching French four decades ago, and that is what student still do.
>
> 3. Last, and foremost, my previous comments concerned the way the
> people of Belgium pronounce the name of the capital city as it is
> spelling in French (In Flemish it is spelled like the first word in the
> English version of "choux de Bruxellles", but without the final S
> "Brussel", pronounced Broos'l).
>
> Conclusion: Whatever the language, the pronunciation guide in the
> dictionary [A] is interpreted differently by each reader, [B]
> represents a "standardised" pronunciation, [C] rarely if ever takes
> into account regional variations in pronunciation.
>
>
> Fr John L
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mona Andrée Rainville <>
> Cc:
> Sent: Thu, Sep 10, 2009 9:16 am
> Subject: Re: [Q-R] Old French Writing & the letter "f"
>
>
>
> Hello John,
>
> I wonder if you could be so good as to cite the official source you are
> referring to.
>
> Your affirmation seems to be at odds with the dictionaries (Petit
> Robert=0
> D
> 2 and Larousse). They all indicate that Bruxelles is pronounced
> Bru(ss)elles...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mona
>
> owentagart wrote:
> > Chère cousine,
> >
> > La prononciation officielle de Bruxelles est bien "Bruck-celle" (sans
> "s")
> (...)
>
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