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From: Mona Rainville <>
Subject: Re: [Q-R] La Présentation
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:49:13 -0400
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Good evening Patty and all,

With such close knitting, there's just got to be precious land involved. :o)

I wonder if it could be the "fief de Bellevue", from which the CHICOINE
derived their surname.

At some point about 1678, Pierre CHICOINE and Pierre BOISSEAU became
co-owners of the seigneurie de Vitré which land became known as Bellevue
(and each half later known as fief Chicoine and fief La Boisselière,
respectively), situated between Contrecoeur and Verchères, on the South
shore of the Saint-Laurent river. This land which ran along the shore
for about 1/2 lieue (about 20 arpents) and in land for 1 lieue (about 40
arpents) cost them 280 livres. (Source: Registre des titres de
concession, de ratification et des autres actes représentés par les
seigneurs des fiefs et les propriétaires d'emplacements à Monsieur
Michel Bégon, intendant en Nouvelle-France, en conformité de ses
ordonnances des 24 décembre 1722, 24 mai 1724 et 14 janvier 1725 (vers
1723-1725), volume 1, f. 324-325v.)

When Pierre BOISSEAU died, his share of the land was divided up between
his wife Anne FOUBERT and his eldest son Antoine. But Antoine was
perennially into debt and his his share of Bellevue was put up for
auction by a creditor.

At the time, 1722, Antoine BOISSEAU held 1/16th of the fief de
Bellevue, and this single portion was estimated to be worth 4,000
livres, a pretty sum in those days!

When Anne FOUBERT died, her share of la BOISSELIERE was divided up
between her children, with 1/4 going to Antoine, the eldest son, and the
rest being divided amongst her six other children in equal share. One
of her daughters, Marie BOISSEAU, had married Paul CHICOINE, son of Pierre.

Well, one day in 1754, Antoine BOISSEAU somehow received a swift smack
on his head with a shovel and died. His brother in law Paul CHICOINE was
charged with his death. But as it turned out, a third man named Felix,
was ultimately convicted of murder, and Paul CHICOINE was exonerated.
And Paul ended up buying Antoine's share of Bellevue.

When the elder Pierre CHICOINE (xx Madeleine CHRETIEN) died, his half of
the seigneurie de Bellevue went to his children. The eldest son Pierre
CHICOINE (x Marie Anne BOUGAULT dit LACROIX) got 1/2 and his sibling,
including Paul, each received a share of the other 1/2.

This is how the BOUVIER children through their mother Marie Marguerite
CHICOINE, became part owner of the "fief" of which she had received 1/5
of the remaining 1/2. (Source: Registre II des foys et hommages pour les
fiefs du Canada (30 janvier 1723 au 5 juillet 1726), partie 1, f. 10-12).

Now look who got one of the other pieces:

Madeleine CHICOINE (sister to Pierre and Marie Marguerite) wife of Louis
GUERTIN (4th degree ancestors of your Marie Josephe BOUVIER.

If Joseph MARCOUX dit SAINT-ONGE is in fact the son of Marguerite
CHICOINE, he would probably have had a small piece of the original fief
de Bellevue to his name and it would have made perfect sense for him to
marry someone who also possessed another parcel of the same land...

Cheers,

Mona









Patty Frazer wrote:
> Thanks, Mona (and others)! My research seems to always lead somehow
> to that Joseph-Marie MARCOUX and the first two of his three wives (the
> third wife is out of scope -- too late to make a contribution).
> However, can't seem to find/fit in a baby to fit my Joseph's
> description. :)
>
> Interestingly, Joseph-Marie MARCOUX's daughter, Marie-Archange
> MARCOUX, married first on 06 Aug 1789 at Notre-Dame-du-Rosaire Joseph
> BENÔIT (parents: Pierre BENÔIT and Marie-Marguerite CHICOINE dit
> BELLEVUE -- wife #2 of Joseph-Marie MARCOUX) -- so Joseph BENÔIT's
> mother married Marie-Archange MARCOUX's father after their first
> spouse died.
>
> Marie-Archange's husband, Joseph BENÔIT, dies 03 Apr 1816 at La
> Présentation. Then, on 03 Jun 1817 at La Présentation, Marie-Archange
> MARCOUX, marries Louis BOUVIER, my Marie-Josephe BOUVIER's father.
> Two years later, Marie-Josephe BOUVIER, marries my Joseph MARCOUX dit
> ST. ONGE.
>
> I can't help but think there's got to be some sort of connection to
> this Joseph-Marie MARCOUX and/or Marie-Archange MARCOUX and that the
> taking of the dit name ST. ONGE began with the marriage to
> Marie-Josephte BOUVIER. Just need to find that ST. ONGE connection to
> this couple far enough back. :)
>
> Thanks, again, for helping me get/keep these thoughts streaming. :)
>
> Patty

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