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From: "Dora Smith" <>
Subject: Re: [Q-R] Three Rivers - Montreal
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 13:50:17 -0600
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Now, that is remarkable.

Yours,
Dora Smith
Austin, TX

----- Original Message -----
From: "daris montour" <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-R] Three Rivers - Montreal


> Even before 1600 the area was called Three Rivers even
> in french history books. You just have to go to
> www.google.com and type three rivers quebec 1600 to
> see. And yes, there are maps before 1600 calling it
> Three Rivers. The french changed it to the french
> name.
>
> --- wrote:
>
>> Trois-Rivières is DOWN river from Montreal and UP
>> river from Quebec City. The
>> direction is determined by the natural flow of the
>> waters to the ocean.
>>
>> I suggest you stand at Niagara Falls and watch the
>> water that flows from Lake
>> Erie DOWN the Niagara River, DOWN the awe-inspiring
>> falls, and toward Lake
>> Ontario, from there DOWN the St. Laurent / St.
>> Lawrence River, and DOWN to the
>> sea.
>>
>> LOWER Canada, modern day Quebec, was DOWN-river, as
>> the waters flowed to the
>> sea, from Upper Canada.
>> UPPER Canada, modern day Ontario, was UP river, as
>> was the pays d'en haut,
>> the country up river that became Michigan,
>> Wisconsin, Illinois...
>>
>> Thus the locks on the St. Lawrence Seaway were
>> created to lower or raise
>> large ocean-going ships, depending on which
>> direction they were traveling. I have
>> experienced traveling through some of these locks.
>>
>> I often stand by the shores of part of _Le Detroit_,
>> The Straits, at Lake
>> St(e). Clair(e), between Lake Erie and Lake Huron,
>> to watch the ocean-going
>> vessels as they pass, in one direction or the other,
>> and think of my ancestors who
>> voyaged the same waters by canoe. Like them, some of
>> the ocean vessels go on
>> to Green Bay, Wisconsin, on Lake Michigan, and other
>> points UP river, before
>> returning Down with their cargo.
>>
>> As for the name of the place called Three Rivers by
>> English speakers, I'm
>> sure they have great difficulty rolling the r's in
>> the original "Trois-Rivières";
>> it is one place name that is consistently
>> translated; but Trois-Rivières was
>> its name as early as a 1601 (that's no typo), _1601_
>> map, as cited by Marcel
>> Trudel. No Indians dwelled there at the time, but
>> they did trade there with the
>> French after Champlain arrived in 1608.
>>
>> Suzanne
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 2/5/2006 5:08:01 PM Eastern
>> Standard Time,
>> writes:
>> X-Message: #12
>> Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 15:08:38 -0600
>> From: "Lauraine Syrnick" <>
>> To:
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>> Subject: Re: [Q-R] Three Rivers - Montreal
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>> This explains why we Anglos get it all mixed up.
>> Upper Canada suggests you
>> went "up" not down - hmm, perhaps there was
>> something snobbish in the naming
>> of "Upper Canada"?
>>
>> Lauraine
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Yolanda Fountain" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 2:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Q-R] Three Rivers - Montreal
>>
>>
>> > Three Rivers is DOWN stream from Montreal, since
>> the St-Lawrence River
>> > flows
>> > from Montreal to Quebec City then into the Gulf of
>> St-Lawrence and the
>> > Atlantic Ocean.
>> > Cheers,
>> > Yolanda
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Dora Smith" <>
>> > To: <>
>> > Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 1:38 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Q-R] Three Rivers - Montreal
>> >
>> >
>> >> Trois-Rivieres is up the river from Montreal,
>> halfway to Quebec, and it
>> > has
>> >> just about always been there.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
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