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Subject: Re: [Q-R] Three Rivers - Montreal
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 19:45:48 EST


Trois-Rivières is DOWN river from Montreal and UP river from Quebec City. The
direction is determined by the natural flow of the waters to the ocean.

I suggest you stand at Niagara Falls and watch the water that flows from Lake
Erie DOWN the Niagara River, DOWN the awe-inspiring falls, and toward Lake
Ontario, from there DOWN the St. Laurent / St. Lawrence River, and DOWN to the
sea.

LOWER Canada, modern day Quebec, was DOWN-river, as the waters flowed to the
sea, from Upper Canada.
UPPER Canada, modern day Ontario, was UP river, as was the pays d'en haut,
the country up river that became Michigan, Wisconsin, Illinois...

Thus the locks on the St. Lawrence Seaway were created to lower or raise
large ocean-going ships, depending on which direction they were traveling. I have
experienced traveling through some of these locks.

I often stand by the shores of part of _Le Detroit_, The Straits, at Lake
St(e). Clair(e), between Lake Erie and Lake Huron, to watch the ocean-going
vessels as they pass, in one direction or the other, and think of my ancestors who
voyaged the same waters by canoe. Like them, some of the ocean vessels go on
to Green Bay, Wisconsin, on Lake Michigan, and other points UP river, before
returning Down with their cargo.

As for the name of the place called Three Rivers by English speakers, I'm
sure they have great difficulty rolling the r's in the original "Trois-Rivières";
it is one place name that is consistently translated; but Trois-Rivières was
its name as early as a 1601 (that's no typo), _1601_ map, as cited by Marcel
Trudel. No Indians dwelled there at the time, but they did trade there with the
French after Champlain arrived in 1608.

Suzanne


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This explains why we Anglos get it all mixed up. Upper Canada suggests you
went "up" not down - hmm, perhaps there was something snobbish in the naming
of "Upper Canada"?

Lauraine
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yolanda Fountain" <>
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Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-R] Three Rivers - Montreal


> Three Rivers is DOWN stream from Montreal, since the St-Lawrence River
> flows
> from Montreal to Quebec City then into the Gulf of St-Lawrence and the
> Atlantic Ocean.
> Cheers,
> Yolanda
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dora Smith" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 1:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Q-R] Three Rivers - Montreal
>
>
>> Trois-Rivieres is up the river from Montreal, halfway to Quebec, and it
> has
>> just about always been there.
>>
>
>

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