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From: "Susan Schon" <>
Subject: Re: [Q-R] Consanguinity - requests for dispensation preserved in Catholic Chu...
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2005 12:47:02 -0500
Thank you once again, Father. I thought there might be separate
documentation. In fact, my great-grandparents' second marriage record
"Lesquel ont déclaré avoir déjà contracté mariage le onze juillet mil huit
cent soixante seize dans la paroisse de St. Vital de Lambton; mais que le
dit mariage s'étant trouvé nul par suite d'un empêchement dérivant du
quatrième dégré de parenté qui a été découvert plus tard, ils ont obtenu de
Monseigneur Elzéar Alexandre Taschereau Archevê que de Québec le seize
avril, mil huit cent quatre vingt-quatre dispense du dit empêchement."
"They declared having already been married on July eleventh one thousand
eight hundred seventy-six in St. Vital of Lambton parish, but the said
marriage was nullified by an impediment deriving from the fourth degree of
kinship that was discovered later. They obtained from Monseigneur Elzéar
Alexandre Taschereau Archbishop of Quebec on the sixteenth of April, one
thousand eight hundred eighty-four, a dispensation of said impediment."
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-R] Consanguinity - requests for dispensation preserved in
> In a message dated 3/28/2005 11:09:12 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> Does anyone know if there was documentation of the requests for
> in cases of close relationships between a bride and groom? My
> great-grandparents, Apollinaire Dallaire and Desanges Blais, had to marry
> second time (in 1884) because they had no dispensation the first time (in
> 1876). They were third cousins -- their common ancestors were their
> great-great-grandparents, Charles DENIS-LAPIERRE (born 28 Jun 1723) and
> Marie Louise FRADET (born 26 Sep 1722) who were married 24 November 1749.
> Thank you,
> The documentation of the dispensations granted for the celebration of
> marriage is to be recorded in the marriage record and on the
> Consanguinity is a relationship between persons based on affiliation by
> blood. It exists in the direct line, if one person is the direct
ancestor of the
> other; in the collateral or indirect line, if neither person is the
> ancestor of the other, but both are descended from a common ancestor. It
> mathematically impossible for any two persons living on this planet to be
> unrelated by consanguinity, since the population of the world is
> expanding as time progresses forward, but the number of ancestors doubles
> past generation.
> Consanguinity is a diriment impediment in all degrees of the direct line.
> In other words, a person cannot validly enter marriage with a direct
> or a direct descendant.
> Consanguinity in the collateral line during colonial times, and until the
> 1917 Code of Canon Law, was considered a diriment impediment up to the
> degree, that is GGG Grandparents; in the 1917 Code, to GG Grandparents;
> 1983 Code, to Grandparents. Until the 1983 Code, consanguinity was
> multiplied not only when the parties were descended from more that one
> common ancestor, but also when they were descended from a single common
> ancestor by distinct lines of descent. Under the 1917 Code,
> multiplied only wnen the common ancestor is muliplied.
> Multiple consanguinity can occur in several ways: (a) when a man marries
> woman who is related to him by blood; (b) when to persons related to each
> other (for ex. two brothers) marry two other persons who are related to
> other (for ex. two sisters); when a man successively married two sisters
> woman marries two brothers) and has issue by each.
> There are abundant examples of multiple ancestry in the genealogies of
> Quebec colonists, particularly among the descendants of the first
> Jean Guyon and Mathurine Robin, Zacharie Cloutier and Xainte Dupont,
> Martin and Marguerite Langlois. Guillaume Couillard and Guillemette
> others too many to name.
> Fr Owen Taggart
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