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From: Anne Marchand <>
Subject: Re: [Q-R] Language question from husband
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 18:40:54 -0500
References: <089901c2e5ca$b78a64d0$cd52f842@kfrog>


the differences is basically this: patois is a slangy type of French
spoken in France. Joual is the name of the French slang we speak in
Canada. And there are different flavours according to the region you
find yourself in. This is a non-linguist definition...


kfrog wrote:

>My husband was just reading an article in the Modern Language Association
>Journal about the dialect in Montreal, which is called "joual". Having been
>trained in French in the US by French professors from France, he thought it
>was called "patois". His professor callled him "Mssr. l'Anglicisme" because
>he was attempting to make Ken's French more standard French. Last New
>Year's, he overheard, in a restaurant, a young man trying to make a date
>with the female waitress in joual, which came back to him upon hearing it
>again. So his question is: "What exactly *is* the difference between joual
>and patois?
>My French is progressing! We thought we would spend the week speaking French
>here at home, but it only lasted three days because we wound up laughing too
>much. But I can now say, "J'ai un the' citron froid", which I am sure will
>come in quite handy if we ever get to Montreal. He is going to install a
>program for me so I can study on the computer. It is the facial expressions
>and grunts that I have the most trouble with, but he has had linguistics, so
>he can tell me exactly the position that one's tongue and teeth should be
>in-but it is still humourous to moi, une Americaine.
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