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From: "Paul Redden" <>
Subject: Re: [Q-R] ALLEN family of the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 17:16:07 -0500
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Hi Ron,

I have been looking for a copy of the ALLEN book you mention. Could you
possibly email me with the publisher and author contact information or
information on how to purchase a copy?

Does this book mention any of the other ALLEN families of the Shenandoah?

The one unsubstantiated GEDCOM I have found has a John ALLEN b. ca 1740 with
wife Lucy and children including Reuben, George, Isaac, John and Joseph all
born between 1760 and 1790. These were all names found in Cocke Co., TN in
the early 1800's, most associated with the McKay's, Hite's, Jobe's, Fine's,
etc. of the Crooked Run, MM in Frederick/Shenandoah Co., VA. This GEDCOM
lists Reuben at least as being the Reuben of Cocke Co. with spouse and
child. Would their be any information on these people?

I am planning a trip to the Frederick and Shenandoah County Courthouses
soon. Perhaps something will turn up there.

Paul Redden

Genealogical Reprints at www.yesterbooks.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "rtct" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 2:34 PM
Subject: Fw: [Q-R] ALLEN family of the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia


>
>
> (765) 453-0643
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "rtct" <>
> To: "Jerry Richmond" <>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 12:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Q-R] ALLEN family of the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia
>
>
> > Jerry and All,
> >
> > Rudelle (Mills) Davis and Peggy (Davidson) Dick published "ALLENS:
> > QUAKERS OF SHENANDOAH, THEIR ANCESTORS AND DESCENDANTS," El Paso Book
> Bindary [sic], El Paso, TX, 1984. I purchased a copy from Rudelle in
1987.
> > I have checked much of their research and find it very reliable. Most
of
> > the following is taken from their work.
> > JOSEPH ALLEN (c1730, PA; 1805, Shenandoah Co., VA) was the fourth
> child of REUBEN ALLEN (1690/1700, Dartmouth, MA; 1741, Shenandoah Co., VA)
> and MARY JACKSON (c1694/1703, NJ; bef 29 May 1751, Augusta Co., VA), who
> were married bef 1719, Monmouth Co., NJ.
> > JOSEPH ALLEN married 1761, Shenandoah Co., VA, to RUTH WHITE (28 Feb
> 1732, Shenandoah Co., VA; 15 Oct 1781, Shenandoah Co., VA), probably the
> eldest child of seven, born to WILLIAM WHITE (c1712, MD; 1766, Shenandoah
> Co., VA) and ROSE (surname unknown) (c1712, MD; 1756/1765, Frederick Co.,
> VA). There is no evidence that RUTH WHITE was ever a Quaker, and the
> marriage date to JOSEPH ALLEN can be deduced from actions his Meeting took
> against him following his marriage in 1761. All of the children were
> recorded as Quakers.
> > JOSEPH ALLEN and RUTH WHITE had ten children, the second being
JOSEPH
> ALLEN, Jr. (27 Apr 1754, Shenandoah Co., VA; 2 Mar 1849, Caesars Creek MM,
> Clinton Co., OH). Note that his death occurred NOT in 1809, but in 1849,
at
> the age of 94 years, 10 months, 5 days (Caesars Creek Birth and Death
> Records), and was buried in the Caesars Creek Burial Ground.
> > Following the death of RUTH WHITE, JOSEPH ALLEN (Sr.) married 9 Apr
> 1788 in Crooked Run MH, Warren Co., VA, to EUNICE (ROGERS) WALTON (1753,
> Frederick Co., VA; died between date of Will, 8 Mar 1822, and first
> disbursements by her son, Moses WALTON, 1825, Shenandoah Co., VA),
daughter
> of EDWARD ROGERS and HANNAH BORDEN [herself a d/o BENJAMIN BORDEN].
> > EUNICE had married first (unknown date and place) to MOSES WALTON,
Jr.
> (d. 1782, Frederick Co., VA), son of MOSES WALTON, Sr. and unknown wife.
By
> MOSES WALTON, EUNICE ROGERS had seven children (number 5 being son MOSES
> WALTON, who was executor of her Will, recorded 13 Mar 1832, Shenandoah
Co.,
> VA).
> > JOSEPH ALLEN and EUNICE (ROGERS) WALTON ALLEN had 5 children (ANNA
> ALLEN, [c1790-20 Sep 1842, Shenandoah Co., VA]; RHESA ALLEN, [25 May
1792-7
> Dec 1865, Shenandoah Co., VA]; and three other daughters who died young,
> whose names have not been found).
> > Following the death in 1805 of JOSEPH ALLEN, Sr., EUNICE (ROGERS)
> WALTON ALLEN returned to Virginia, and married 12 Jun 1811, in Smith's
Creek
> MH, Frederick Co., VA, to another Quaker, GOLDSMITH CHANDLEE (d. 3 Apr
1821,
> Shenandoah Co., VA). Following his death, EUNICE lived out her final
years
> with her son, RHESA ALLEN, making her Will on 8 Mar 1822, as noted above.
> > JOSEPH ALLEN, Jr. was only married ONCE, NOT TWICE. His marriage
> occurred 14 Dec 1784, in Smith's Creek MH, by that date in Shenandoah Co.,
> VA, to SUSANNAH BOND (27 Mar 1766, Montgomery Co., PA; c1813, Shenandoah
> Co., VA), the eldest of ten children born to EDWARD BOND (4 Nov 1838,
> Montgomery Co., PA; 23 May 1826, Clark Co., OH) and MARY FOX (c1743, PA;
14
> Apr 1831, Clark Co., OH), who were married 7 Jun 1765, Abington MM,
> Montgomery Co., PA. (I descend from their 4th child, BENJAMIN BOND, 23
May
> 1771, Montgomery Co., PA; 31 Dec 1857, Wash. Twp., Grant Co., IN, and wife
> SUSANNAH ALLEN, c1775, Shenandoah Co., VA; 19 Sep 1855, Wash. Twp., Grant
> Co., IN, also a daughter of JOSEPH ALLEN and RUTH WHITE!)
> > The only known children of JOSEPH ALLEN, Jr. and SUSANNAH BOND were:
> 1. JOSEPH ALLEN
> 2. DEBORAH ALLEN
> 3. RUTH ALLEN
> > I do not know the source for the estimated dates of birth offered by
> Jerry Richmond, but I am fairly certain that they were born in Shenandoah
> Co., NOT Frederick Co., VA. Davis and Dick give additional information
(pp.
> 412-414) about a BENJAMIN ALLEN in Greene Co., OH, but were able to prove
> no relationship to the JOSEPH ALLEN and SUSANNAH BOND, above. At no point
> do they mention any connection with Tennessee for this family.
> > I would welcome further correspondence on the ALLEN family off-line
at
> my email address, given below.
> Ron Tetrick
>
> (765) 453-0643
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jerry Richmond" <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 5:41 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Q-R] ALLEN family of the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia
> >
> >
> > > Paul -
> > >
> > > In this instance, the mentioning in 1814 of Joseph, Ruth, & Deborah as
> the
> > > children of Joseph Allen, was most likely informational rather than
> > indicating
> > > that they were minors. It would appear that Joseph came out to Ohio
> with
> > > his family in 1808-1809. He died 2 Mar 1809 and is buried in Caesars
> > > Creek cem. The children remained in Ohio but the widow Eunice Rogers
> > > [who first married Moses Walton in c1768] returned to Virginia where
she
> > > married 3rdly to Goldsmith Chandlee on 12 Jun 1811. Eventually the 3
> > > children applied for and had their membership transferred to Ohio from
> > > Hopewell after attending meetings in Ohio for some 5-6 years as
> > "visitors".
> > >
> > > Regards, Jerry Richmond
> > > You are cordially invited to visit "The Quaker Collection"
> > > http://home.sprynet.com/~jrichmon/qkrcoll.htm
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Paul Redden" <>
> > > To: <>
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 6:19 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Q-R] ALLEN family of the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia
> > >
> > >
> > > Jerry,
> > >
> > > You list Joseph III as being born about 1789 and being received in
Ohio
> as
> > a
> > > child of Joseph in 1814 meaning that he was a minor at that time
instead
> > of
> > > 25 years old. These are some of the inconsistancies I have found that
> > > probably result from multiple families of the same name in the same
area
> > and
> > > at the same churches.
> > >
> > > The Joseph (b. ca 1784) I am looking for had a daughter, Virginia Rose
> > > Allen, born Nov. 2, 1806. Possible if he were born in 1789 but not
> likely
> > > if he were born later. Especially as he had migrated to TN and this
> > Joseph
> > > (b. ca 1789) doesn't seem to have left his parents. Another possible
> > twist
> > > is that Joseph, Jr. had a brother Jackson who also had a son Joseph
the
> > > right age.
> > >
> > > Paul Redden
> > >
> > > Genealogical Reprints at www.yesterbooks.com
> > >
> > > <snip, snip>
> > >
> > >
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