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From: "Liz Forrest" <>
Subject: Re: [PEART] PEART origins
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 16:48:21 +0100
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Hi Gordon,

Don't know what part of Scotland you're in, but do you know Logie Pert, between Laurencekirk and Brechin ? I was speaking about this to Prof. Bill Nicolaisen of Aberdeen Uni. several years ago - he's a names specialist - and he suggested this as the derivation of the surname ie. of placename origin and the placename itself being one of the few Pictish terms remaining in the Scottish landscape and meaning "copse" (along with "Aber/confluence", "carden/thicket", and "lanerc/clearing", but the most common it "pit" having something to do with a portion of land).

See also work by G Whittington "placenames and the settlement pattern of dark age Scotland" Proceeding of the Society of Antiquaries of Scotland vol 106 1974-5.

Have fun,

Liz Forrest (nee Peart)

----- Original Message -----
From: Gordon Johnson<mailto:>
To: <mailto:>
Sent: 06 September 2006 11:20
Subject: Re: PEART origins

Flanagan112 said:
> Our Pearts came from the upper Weardale Valley southwest of Durham. The names you mention (Joseph Peart)
and Elizabeth Magby do NOT ring a bell. However, there were many Peart
in the Durham area and I think some
toward Northcumberland areas as it is my intuition that the Peart name
came from the north, perhaps from
Scotland. If you run across family closer toward Durham, let us know.
Our records go back to about mid 1700's
for the Weardale Valley.

** Hello, folks, as the main PERT researcher in Scotland (sometimes
written as PEART in the earlier years, but also recorded as PAIRT -
reflecting local pronunciation), can I mention that I have been able to
find the Pert surname in Scotland back to the early 1500s, though I
cannot take my own line back further than about 1670.
However, one can also find Peart/Pert families on the Kent coast back to
the early 1500s as well, so it remains unclear as to whether the
Perts/Pearts moved south from Scotland or north from Kent!
Anyone who can throw some light on this conundrum, I would be glad to
hear from.
Remember that pre-1800 most of the population was illiterate, and
records were written down based on how the name SOUNDED, so you get a
variety of spellings. One family I discovered in Argyllshire with the
name recorded as PART, but I was able to identify them.
Happy hunting!
Gordon Johnson

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