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From: "laura crane" <>
Subject: Re: [PACE-L] Joseph Pace, age 43 on Fluvanna 1850 census
Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 20:09:44 -0700


I agree with Roy's opinion that Francis X Pace probably did not mean
his middle name was Xavier.
It's a beautiful and historic name but most of us Baptists never
heard of Xavier much
less name our kids for him. I also agree that the Pace name is
Italian and understand that
there are Paces in Italy today but many of us would-be Italian Paces
have been English
for several generations before becoming American.
-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Johnson <>
To: <>
Date: Sunday, September 08, 2002 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [PACE-L] Joseph Pace, age 43 on Fluvanna 1850 census


>If Paces were Catholic, they were most likely Italian Paces, although there
>may have been others. My Paces were Baptist back to at least the
>Revolution. I got a kick out of one Pace book that said my Francis Pace,
>recorded at one point as Francis X Pace, was probably "Francis Xavier." My
>Baptist ancestors would sooner name their kids Judas Iscariot than to name
>him after a Catholic saint. Francis apparently couldn't write his name
>either due to illiteracy or to being incapacitated,and signed his name with
>an X, and someone wrote "Francis Pace" on both sides of the X.
>
>Note my previous email about Italian Paces marrying English Paces.
>
>Roy
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jim Williamson" <>
>To: <>
>Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2002 1:19 PM
>Subject: RE: [PACE-L] Joseph Pace, age 43 on Fluvanna 1850 census
>
>
>> I am not sure how/why this would pertain to your Joseph, but the
>> only time I have ever seen the S.J. follow a name in that fashion, sort
>> of like a tile such as PhD, Esq, etc, is as an abbreviation for Society
>> of Jesus, denoting the Catholic Jesuit Society.
>>
>> Many times I have seen Fr. So-and-so S.J. but I am unsure if
>> that would apply for laymen or not? I am also unsure of the Pace
>> religious preference? Is it possible Joseph was Catholic? If so it is
>> then possible that is what the S.J. stood for, perhaps he was a lay
>> member of the society.
>>
>> Again, this may not be the answer, but it's the only time I have
>> seen that designation.
>>
>> Jim Williamson
>> Williamson, Kinsella, Pace, Marth
>> www.williamson-clan.com
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lois & John Carey [mailto:]
>> Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 6:34 PM
>> To:
>> Subject: [PACE-L] Joseph Pace, age 43 on Fluvanna 1850 census
>>
>> Joseph is listed as follows:
>>
>> Pace Joseph ( S.J.) 43 M W
>>
>> What does the (S.J.) denote?
>> )
>> That is also used in the Fluvanna birth register following
>> his name at the birth of daughter Ann Elizabeth,
>> June 14,1854. Again at the birth of a son,Joseph Leake,
>> Mar.6,1856.
>>
>> There is another Joseph listed as Joseph Sr.(son of Robert)
>> at the birth of Son ,Albert, Jan 1, 1854.
>>
>> Can't be the same Joseph with two children born in 1854.
>>
>>
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