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From: "laura crane" <>
Subject: [PACE-L] Webster College and St. Louis
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:03:39 -0700

Thanks for your hard work in getting to the bottom of the DNA thing for
the Pace Society.
We must have met at some of those excellent St Louis Genealogy
Fairs! been attending these
10 or so years. Laura Pace Crane, President Genealogy Society of
Central MO. P.S. Webster
was where I wanted our son to attend but he wanted to go here to
MU. (In addition to Webster being a great place to go to school, I
wanted him to go there because of your
shopping centers and historic sites.!)
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From: Roy Johnson <>
To: <>
Date: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: [PACE-L] DNA - "E> Aldridge" >COM


>
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>Subject: [PACE-L] DNA - "E> Aldridge" >COM
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>
>> 1. Of late there have been "bushels" of verbiage about using DNA to
>determine
>> lineage of the Pace "PACK". Seems a "Protocol aka Ropad Map" is necessary
>and
>> must at least answer the following questions, all intertwined and
>> interdependent:
>>
>> a. Whot?
>> b. What?
>> c. Why?
>> d. When?
>> e. Where?
>> f. How?
>> e. Controls & dissemation of results?
>
>I agree. I don't think Pace Society president Bob Pace will mind if I tell
>you that he e-mailed me privately asking me to work on a proposal to
present
>to the society, especially since so many have suggested funding by
>donations. It has to be done in the right way, and requires a lot of
study
>into just how it works, what results can be expected, what labs are
>reputable, how to handle privacy issues, and, if there is to be a fund for
>donations handled by the Pace Society, how to determine participants if
>there are more than the fund will handle.
>
>I have been working on it as much as I can and I set up a page on the Pace
>Network to post important information and links to useful sites (not in
>place yet, but coming). I would like help from all possible sources--if
you
>come across a useful site or useful information, post it to the group or
>e-mail it to me if it is too long.
>
>Site on Pace Network: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~pace/DNA/
>
>I teach computer courses at Webster University in the St. Louis suburbs,
and
>while my class was having their work time today I did some google searching
>and came up with some very useful information and some good sites, which I
>will post to the above URL as soon as I have time.
>
>Roy Johnson
>
>>
>> 2. With successful answers, there are a great number of hurdles to
>overcome,
>> providing one has the intestional fortitude to contine. Consider the
>> possibility your DNA Mapping has already been accomplished. There are
>various
>> agencies, facilities, etc., which might be of assistance:
>>
>> a. Your medical provider and servicing labs, inquiring also as to
>what
>> agencies they have provided "substances" for further study & DNA Mapping.
>>
>> b. Your medical/health insurance policy holder(s), even those who
>have
>> rejected earlier coverage. Again, asking to what agencies they have
>> communicated on this subject.
>>
>> c. Government agencies: Suggest starting with the Dept of Justice
>> (Atty Genl Ashcroft) as he has the "finger" on all law enforcement
records
>> leading to a National Data Base on all collecting archives; inquire if
>they
>> have provided their files to an agency in Brussels, Belgium, i.e.
European
>> Union and UN as part of the "New World Order."
>>
>> d. A Note of Caution as such inquiry may very well trigger a
notion
>> for placement on a "Person of Interest List."
>>
>> 3. Currenty, there is a move afoot for the military to provide law
>> enforcement all of the collected DNA files which was amassed for
>> identification of casualties.
>>
>> 4. Seems a close study of a selected Lab's Protocol prior to heading on
>this
>> "wild ride." What is the baseline, and how is that to be determined and
>who
>> does the count of possible Pace Descendents? Maybe one should start with
>> legal and known offspring; finding they all match parents, then keep
>> proceeding backward.
>>
>> a. In my research of various families, have "uncovered" one gal
who
>> was married three times, had three fine sons who were all halfbrothers
and
>> not one was fathered by either one of the husbands. After her death, and
>ole
>> nneighbor was aked "what w3as so interesting of the gal"? His relpy,
>> "availability."
>>
>>
>> 5. This is a story I tell of part of my heritage:
>>
>> a. There were two brothers who crossed the pond. After arrival in
>VA,
>> the elder took an Indian wife during one of his long hunter treks. The
>> younger became a merchant/farmer, and while the elder was away, the
>younger
>> shared the blanket with the Indian gal. On return and learing of the
>escape,
>> the elder packed, leaving his wife and went south to become a "jack leg"
>> preacher. The younger took the Indian gal and went west becomming a horse
>> thief. So, by the Grace of God, part of my ancestors rode a boat to VA
>while
>> another branch was waving to them as they landed, and I come from the
>western
>> band.
>>
>> 6. Basic Genealogy is the study of human from womb to tomb. Thus some
>degree
>> of medical knowledge is necessary when shaking the family tree while
>hoping
>> not too man "nuts and fruits" fall. This DNA search may lead to the
>"woodpile
>> and/or haystack, or even to Thomas Jefferson." In any event be prepared
to
>> encounter prime candidates for study and any School of Proctology. Above
>> all, recall that its the same DNA Science that leads some to believe they
>> have ancestors and living cousins who are well cloaked, except their
>knuckles
>> where they drag the ground.
>>
>>
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