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From: "Betty A. Pace" <>
Subject: [PACE-L] Fw: Re: JOHN PACE (TORY) & 1780 BATTLE OF SHALLOW FORD, NC
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 10:51:00 +0000


Maybe Ann Brownlee can find some record that establishes John Pace and
sons Richmond and Thomas as involved in the Battle of Shallow Ford, Surry
Co. NC. She has done much research on that battle.

She is recommending the Moravian Diaries as a place to look for "gossip"
about the Tory neighbors, possibly our John Pace. It can be acquired
through inter-library loan.

Betty Pace
--------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Ann Brownlee <>
To: "Betty A. Pace" <>
Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 23:38:09 -0700
Subject: Re: JOHN PACE (TORY) & BATTLE OF SHALLOW FORD, NC


Hi Betty!

Thanks for the information. You've got my attention! I'll see if
there's anything in both the court records and the Moravian diaries.

Inter-library loan: "Records of the Moravians in North Carolina", ed.
by Adelaide L. Fries, Raleigh: Edwards & Broughton, 1930. Volume IV
covers 1780-1783. You'd probably also want Volume III. They revelled
in neighborhood news. Would prod anyone who came into the tavern for
information on where they came from, where they were going, and why.
Would be very disappointed if the traveler wouldn't tell them anything.

I'll let you know if I find anything.

Gideon Wright fled to Charleston which was still under the British for
protection. It was probably necessary in his case because he was the
big wig. I don't think many of the rank and file did the same. There
had to have been some kind of an unwritten understanding that you didn't
go around killing your neighbors who were on the other side, or no one
would have been left alive.

Ann

Betty A. Pace wrote:
>
> Dear Ann,
>
> I am sending you separately a rendering from the Pace research book
that
> contends our John Pace died at or around the Battle of Shallow Ford,
> Surry Co., NC. It is by Bruce Howard.
>
> To answer your questions, no one has ever found a will for John Pace or
> his wife Sarah Burge Pace, who died around 1808.
>
> I don't know if the court records on confiscation have been checked. I
> didn't know they existed. I have looked at some books on Tories in NC
> and have never found my Paces. I did find the name of Gideon Wright in
> Charlestown SC, but his land was confiscated also.
>
> I suspect that our sources think John Pace was with Gideon Wright is
> because of the area the Paces lived in. Much tradition in Pace
research
> asserts he was killed at the Battle of Shallow Ford but we can't prove
> it, except that he seems to have disappeared. I didn't know about the
> battle at Colson's Mill.
>
> I didn't know to look at the Moravian diaries for this Pace familyl.
How
> would I get those records?
>
> It was about time that I typed up the section on the Battle of Shallow
> Ford for membes of my family who don't own Bruce Howard's book.
>
>
> Thanks for any advice.
>
> Betty
> On Wed, 29 May 2002 01:33:17 -0700 Ann Brownlee
<>
> writes:
> > Hi Betty,
> >
> > Thanks for the John Pace information. I'll add him to my "maybe"
> > list.
> > I assume there isn't a will? And have the Rowan court records been
> > looked at for a trial to confiscate his land? If not, I'll check
> > next
> > time I'm in the library. I haven't looked for the Tory trials,
> > because,
> > unless I have reason to think they were at Shallow Ford, I'd just
> > be
> > looking at all Tories. Is there a reason to think he was with
> > Gideon
> > Wright, and not some other group - there were Tories with one of
> > the
> > Bryans at Colson's Mill earlier that summer? If he was known to be
> > with
> > Gideon Wright, then he probably would have been at Shallow Ford.
> > How
> > about the Moravian diaries - any mention there? Did I ask enough
> > questions?
> >
> > > Ann
> >
> >
> ---

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