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From: "C. Robert Appledorn" <>
Subject: Re: [OSTF] Re: [Ostf-Extra] Brockmeier mystery
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 12:15:32 -0700 (PDT)
32676Thank you for posting this. It is very timely considering that it was only
yesterday that the Brockmeier / Richtsmeyer mystery was posted.
Now I have a new question. Exactly what and how large is a heute Ort?
Related to this is how close (distance) are these two places:
i.e., the two villages of Elbrinxen and Sabbenhausen?
Teijo Doornkamp <> wrote:
There's a site I have used for the Lippe area that contains the names of
the farms in use at 1780 and thus the family names. See:
Both Richtsmeier and Brockmeier are there. Sigrid can of course be right,
but these can also have orginated from a Meier (tennant) called Rigt /
> Bob and all others who are trying to sort this out,
> This family originally came from the Lippe-Detmold area of Germany. In
> that area, they practiced Hofnamen. That was using the name of the farm.
> So if a fella married a gal with the farm, he took her name. If the
> family ended up owning a farm they took the name of the farm, so it is
> possible that no one was actually born with that name.
> Now imagine that you came from the Lippe area and were use to using this
> naming system. Then you moved to Ostfriesland and took on the practice of
> Any wonder there might be a bit of confusion?
> On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 13:19:21 -0700 (PDT) "C. Robert Appledorn"
> Zella and I have spent the better part of the day trying to sort out the
> Brockmeier family moved into the German Valley, Illinois area. The
> father of the clan is Christ (* 1793) and is buried at North Grove Evang
> Zion Cemetery at Adeline, Illinois (a little village about 3 miles south
> of GVI).
> Examine the annotation associated with him. It states that
> 1. He married Elizabeth Brockmeier
> 2. His original surname was Richtsmeier
> Is this a case of when a constant surname was adopted during the
> Napoleanic period, they chose to use the wife's maiden name? I
> think probably so.
> Also interesting is that when one daughter married, she is listed with
> the surname Reichtsmyer.
> Christoph B. Oct 18, 1793 Germany D. Oct 22, 1869, Forreston, Ill
> Son of: Christian
> Married: Elizabeth Brockmeier,Died in Germany, 1841
> Children: Frederick, Christian, Dorothea Dammeier, Elizabeth Potorf.
> Minnie Keeler, Henry, Christ came to U.S. with children in May1948.
> Christ name was Richtsmeier( Died in son's burning home)
> KEELER, CHARLES REICHTSMYER, MARIA
> 01/17/1855 / 740 STEPHENSON
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