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From: kay l blaas <>
Subject: Re: [OSTF] Re: [Ostf-Extra] Brockmeier mystery
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 07:37:28 +0200
References: <20051016.160044.1884.19.zwmirick@juno.com>
In-Reply-To: <20051016.160044.1884.19.zwmirick@juno.com>


Moin,
in my family Ihnke Eiben Meents took the second name of his maternal
grandfather Dirk Luitjens as family name. He wanted to inherit the farm
of his grandfather, his father had given up his own farm, after the
death of his wife and worked on the farm of his father in law; so this
was a mixture of Hofname and patronymical system. But in your case I can
see nobody, who inherits a farm! The new names (familynames) had to be
taken in 1811, Christoph was only 18 years old and I suppose, he was not
married at that time! Viele Grüße Kay

Zella W Mirick schrieb:

>Bob and all others who are trying to sort this out,
>This family originally came from the Lippe-Detmold area of Germany. In
>that area, they practiced Hofnamen. That was using the name of the farm.
>So if a fella married a gal with the farm, he took her name. If the
>family ended up owning a farm they took the name of the farm, so it is
>possible that no one was actually born with that name.
>Now imagine that you came from the Lippe area and were use to using this
>naming system. Then you moved to Ostfriesland and took on the practice of
>patronymics.
>Any wonder there might be a bit of confusion?
>Zella
>
>On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 13:19:21 -0700 (PDT) "C. Robert Appledorn"
><> writes:
>Zella and I have spent the better part of the day trying to sort out the
>Brockmeier family moved into the German Valley, Illinois area. The
>father of the clan is Christ (* 1793) and is buried at North Grove Evang
>Zion Cemetery at Adeline, Illinois (a little village about 3 miles south
>of GVI).
>
>Examine the annotation associated with him. It states that
>
> 1. He married Elizabeth Brockmeier
> 2. His original surname was Richtsmeier
>
>Is this a case of when a constant surname was adopted during the
>Napoleanic period, they chose to use the wife's maiden name? I
>think probably so.
>
>Also interesting is that when one daughter married, she is listed with
>the surname Reichtsmyer.
>
>robert
>
>BROCKMEIER
>Christoph B. Oct 18, 1793 Germany D. Oct 22, 1869, Forreston, Ill
>Son of: Christian
>Married: Elizabeth Brockmeier,Died in Germany, 1841
>Children: Frederick, Christian, Dorothea Dammeier, Elizabeth Potorf.
>Minnie Keeler, Henry, Christ came to U.S. with children in May1948.
>Christ name was Richtsmeier( Died in son's burning home)
>
>
>KEELER, CHARLES REICHTSMYER, MARIA
>01/17/1855 / 740 STEPHENSON
>
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