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From: "Joanna Waugh" <>
Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] William Crandall born 1802 in USA
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 15:34:13 -0400
References: <mailman.469.1283238060.9097.ontario@rootsweb.com>
In-Reply-To: <mailman.469.1283238060.9097.ontario@rootsweb.com>

Hello Catt,
I can see that your family of interest can be found in the 1861
census for Scarborough, York County. This is the earliest they can be
found online in the Canada census. From this, you see the children
were born in the US. I don't see any Ontario marriage or death
registrations for the family that give the name of the US birthplace
where you could look there for marriage or birth records. Some Ontario
marriage registrations and later census for the younger children
contradict the US birthplace but for sons Clark and David it seems
positive. It is unlikely you will find any more Ont records unless
you dig into records that aren't online. Clark married in 1861 to
Mary Sheridan. His marriage is not online. It appears in the County
Marriage Register for Ontario County but is missing from the online
databases (Ancestry) . You could look it up on microfilm FHL US/CAN
Film 1030062 vol 45 ref 1: 141. It might give a birthplace. Clark
is the son that moves to Orillia and becomes Roman Catholic. You
could also see what the church burial record is for him in Simcoe
County.

The 1876 marriage record for William John Crandall, 1881 &1891 census,
and his 1895 death record say he was born in Ontario. That puts the
family's arrival in Ontario in the range 1839 -1844. So you are out of
luck for both 1850 US and 1851 Canada census since there doesn't seem
to be one for Scarborough.

Often when I am stuck, I see if I can duplicate the research found in
an online tree for my person of interest. Be flexible with William's
birth year . Your family can be found on a Worldconnect database on
Rootsweb as "Descendants of Elder John Crandall". See
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=:3
091383&id=I3049

This tree gives William and son Clark as born in Petersburg NY. Early
generations came from Rhode Island. If Ann is Clark's mother then a
marriage may be in that NY county of Rensselaer and you should go to
the Rensselaer County Genweb and mailing lists to find where records
are.

Another important fact from this 1861 census is that you have names of
some of the Hueston family, maybe/maybe not Ann's mother and 2
siblings but they are names you can check for in Rensselaer too.

Sometimes bible records can be misleading. You don't know when the
entries were made in the bible even though the bible was published
quite early. It could have been at the time of the event or 50 years
later when memories weren't as good. Sometimes the handwriting and
ink is a clue.


Hope this helps
Joanna

> -----Original Message-----
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 23:32:57 -0400
> From: Catt <>
> Subject: [ONTARIO] William Crandall born 1802 in USA, died in
> Scarborough,Ontario in 1876, at age 76, married to Ann ?
in York
> East,originally sometime from England]
> To: <>, <>,
> <>, <>
> Cc:
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> William Crandall of German descent? born 1802 in ? USA, died in
Scarborough,
> Ontario in 1876, at age 76, married to Ann ? in York
> East. Maybe he was a Loyalist?
>
> I checked familysearch.org and found only one William Crandall born
in 1802 in the
> USA.
> His name Was William Clark Crandall from Rhode Island, USA. He was
married to
> Phoebe Jane Burdick.
>
> I do not think this is my William Crandall married to Ann? as they
did not name any
> of their children Clarke. Perhaps the Clarke
> was a female surname from the Past?
>
> My William Crandall married an Ann? born in Ireland, somewhere.
> There was an Ann Crandall in the 1891 Canadian Census born in 1816
in Ireland,
> and died in 1891 in York East, Ontario.
>
> Is there a way, to find out the maiden name of my Ann ? Crandall or
Crandle?
> Was she married in USA or in Ontario?
>
> Catt
>
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 01:10:47 -0400
> From: Catt <>
> Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Ann ? (Hueston?) Crandle,born 1814 to
1816
> somewhere in Ireland to Toronto, Canada
> To: "Sher Leetooze" <>
> Cc:
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Ann ? Crandle, born 1814 somewhere in Ireland to Toronto , Canada. I
do not think
> that the Ann Hueston link above is my family.
>
> In 1804 a William Crandall of German extraction, was born in 1804 in
USA. He was
> on the 1871 Census of Canada in Scarborough Twp.
> York County, Ontario, Canada. Probably a Loyalist?
>
> This William Crandall was married to an Ann ? born in Ireland in
1816.
> William Thomas Crandall and Ann ? Crandall, had a son William JOHN
Crandall
> born in 1851 in the USA ? somewhere. He married Jane
> Parker.
> John had a brother George Crandall. the others I do not remember the
names. A few
> died young.
> I do not know when they came to Canada.
>
> There was a son William JOHN Crandall born in 1851 in the USA
somewhere. He
> married Jane Parker, in 1870's.
> A William Thomas Crandall who died May 8, 1895.
> He had a brother George Crandall.
>
> If I am confused, the Old 1875 family Bible is confused too.
>
> What information is available re the William Thomas Crandall born in
USA and
> Ann ? from Ireland born in 1816? I think they lived
> in Highland Creek.
>
> They may be buried in St. Margaret's in the Pines, Highland Creek,
Scarborough,
> Ontario, Canada.

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