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From: "Joanna Waugh" <>
Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] Help needed
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 23:37:23 -0400
References: <mailman.14436.1276984612.3593.ontario@rootsweb.com>
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Hello Fiona,
According to the book "Wilson's Marriage Notices, the marriage of
"Lemon Smith " and Mary Campbell was reported in the Christian
Guardian ( the Methodist newspaper) on June 5 1839 "on 25th April,
Lemon Smith and Mary Campbell, both of Tiny, (Rev J Scott).
On Ancestry , the image of this marriage return in the Home district
register is now available. I'll send it to you off list. The marriage
took place in Orillia and the minister Jonathan Scott wrote the return
when he was in Niagara in 1840 .

I think I see the family in Toronto in the 1861 census you referred to
. They are also there in 1871 census. Mary is running a boarding
house. But Harriet is still with them, age 31, milliner and Ellen is
with them? There can't be 2 families with a son named Leman the
right age in Toronto at the same time? You can get the image
through Automated genealogy.
1871 census
Name: Mary Smith
Gender: Female
Age: 49
Birth Year: abt 1822
Birth Place: Scotland
Marital Status: Widowed
Religion: W Methodist
Origin: Scotland (Scotish)
Province: Ontario
District: Toronto West
District Number: 46
Division: 02
Subdistrict: St Patricks Ward
Subdistrict Number: b
Household Members: Name Age
Mary Smith 49
Harriott Smith 31
Mary Anne Smith 27
Lemen Smith 25
Ellen Smith 23
Margret Smith 21

Mary Smith appears in the Toronto Directories in the Digital
Collection at the Toronto Public Library. She is mentioned from about
1866 to 1874. The first couple years say she is the widow of Leman.
1874 says wid L.
Lemon appears in the directories starting about 1866 He was a porter
with the GWR (Great Western Railway) Then I odn't see either in the
census, or any vital statistics on Ancestry. They vanish.

It is hard getting outgoing records from Canada. You might get more
information on Robert Braik leaving Canada through his military
records.
Joanna



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> Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 19:19:19 +0100
> From: "Fiona Waltenberg" <>
> Subject: [ONTARIO] Help needed
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> Hello
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> I'm hoping someone can help me.here is some background to my
request:
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> Mary Ann Campbell (born Scotland 1822) and Leman Smith (born New
York 1814
> -
> apparently) were married on 25 April 1839 in Orillia, Simco,
Ontario. Leman
> and Mary Ann had 7 children:
>
> Harriet, born/christened 5 February 1840, Penetanguishene, Simco
> John, born/christened 14 December 1841, Penetanguishene, Simco
> Mary Ann, born/christened 9 July 1843, Penetanguishene, Simco
> Leman, born/christened 1846, Penetanguishene, Simco Simco
> Ellen, born/christened December 1848, Penetanguishene Simco
> Margaret, born/christened 25 November 1850, Penetanguishene,Simco
> William, born/christened 1853, Penetanguishene, Simco
>
> The family were Wesleyan Methodists and by 1861 I believe that they
were in
> Toronto as Harriet, Mary Ann, Margaret, William and mother Mary Ann
are in
> the Ontario 1861 Census - Census place - Toronto, York, Ontario. I
can't
> find the father, Leman, in this census and it's possible that he may
have
> died between 1853 and 1861.
> Harriet's sister Ellen was married on the same day has her and her
witness
> was Leman Smith though I think that this is her brother Leman, not
her
> father.
>
> Harriet A Smith married Robert Baron Braik on 14 April 1864 in York
> (Toronto). Robert Braik was in the army and he and Harriet had
returned to
> England by 1871. On the 1871 England Census they have 3 children,
Mary Ann,
> 5 yrs, Catherine, 3 yrs and Ellen, 1 month. The eldest daughter is
indicated
> as born in Aldershot, England so assuming this is correct they had
returned
> to England by 1865/1866.
>
> Catherine Braik is my great grandmother. She emigrated to Australia
(from
> what I can see by herself) in 1893 on the ship Taranto.
>
> Could anyone give me some pointers on:
>
> The possibility and whereabouts of the marriage record for Mary Ann
and
> Leman (25 April 1839).
> A death record for Leman Smith, (father)
> A death record for Mary Ann Smith, (mother)
> Whether any shipping records might be available for Mary Ann's
arrival in
> Canada - I'm assuming that she would have come with her family.
> Any shipping records for Robert and Harriet Braik leaving Canada.
>
> I would be very grateful for any help that anyone can give as I'm a
bit
> stuck on this Canadian connection and would like to research this
further. I
> don't have regular access to Ancestry.com. I obtained the birth
information
> above from familysearch.org.
>
> Thanks very much
>
> Fiona

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