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From: "Olive Tree Genealogy" <>
Subject: [ONTARIO] (Fwd) Emigrants from Carlisle to Canada
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 15:39:57 -0500


Hello everyone

Thought you might find this email of interest, and have the
permission of Harry to copy to our lists

Lorine

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Date sent: Mon, 30 Oct 2006 10:05:47 -0500 (EST)
From: (Harry Dodsworth)
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Subject: [TSL] Emigrants from Carlisle to Canada and New Zealand in 1863
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Bridget Casson spotted these reports in the Carlisle
Patriot of 1863,
about the families sent out by the Carlisle Emigration
Committee. The families were weavers, hence the comments at
the end about destroying the looms.
Bridget posted them on the Cumberland list and gave me
permission to
copy them. I have added information from Canadian sources.
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May 16th 1863
Departure of the Carlisle Emigrants
The emigrants for Canada sent out by the Carlisle
Emigration
Committee left the Citadel Station on Monday morning [May
11] at 20 minutes past 8 o'clock. They numbered 33 persons
in all, comprising four families, whose names are PAISLEY,
SANDERSON, NIMMONS and PRUDHAM. They were accompanied to
the
station by at least 200 of their neighbours and friends who
cheered them lustily as the engine steamed away. [1]

June 6th 1863
Departure of a second batch of emigrants from Carlisle
Another batch of operatives consisting of two families, one
of the name of BELL from Kingstown and the other HUTCHINSON
of Caldewgate, numbering in all 14 persons, left the
Citadel
station on Saturday morning [May 30] for Glasgow, where
they
will embark for Canada. They were sent off by the Carlisle
Emigration Committee and the Very Rev the Dean of Carlisle,
chairman of the Committee, was present to witness their
departure, and addressed a few farewell words of advice to
the emigrants. It had been intended to send out 4 families
as before but an intimation had been received from Glasgow
that there was only accommodation on board for 2 families.
When in the carriage the Rev R S Adams, secretary to the
Committee, gave each of them a sum of money.

The train arrived at Glasgow at ten minutes to one, and on
the same day they embarked in the St George for Quebec,
where they will be received by a Government agent and taken
proper care of till they get work.
It will be seen that the Mansion House Committee
contributed 20 UKP
towards the outfits of this batch of emigrants. Sir George
MUSGRAVE we observe has subscribed 50 UKP. [2], [3]

July 11th 1863 (from a letter to the Times from the Dean of
Carlisle on behalf of the Committee)
"We are promised 150 UKP by one gentleman provided we can
expend
300 UKP on emigrants for Canterbury in New Zealand in
September next".

August 22nd 1863
Another batch of emigrants numbering 28 left yesterday
(Thursday)
morning by the 8 o'clock train to London where they would
join the ship David G Fleming bound to Canterbury New
Zealand. The railway authorities very kindly provided a
carriage especially for the emigrants and allowed it to be
attached to the fast instead of the slow train. The names
of
the emigrants are William WILSON, wife and four children;
Gregory DUFFEY, wife and six children; Mary DUFFEY and
daughter; Matthew REAY, wife and two children; Joseph
IRVING, wife and one child; John HULDEN, wife and three
children. [4]
Twelve more looms have been destroyed!

October 10th 1863
Another batch of emigrants for "Canterbury" to New
Zealand
Thomas MAIN and family of 8 children; Thomas HUGHES and
family of 6 children, John WALKER and family of 8 children,
were sent under the auspices of the Carlisle Emigration
Committee for Auckland, New Zealand. The Committee have
made
great havoc amongst those distress breeding implements, the
handlooms, having since the last party went out broken into
splinters 44, so as most effectively to prevent the
possibility of any desperate individual stepping into the
departed weavers shoes.

Notes.
1. The route and ship are not mentioned but the Allan liner
St George left Glasgow on May 13, which fits well with the
departure date. Montreal Gazette, May 29, 1863 Arrived
Quebec, May 24 to May 26 SS St George, [captain] Wylie,
Glasgow, May 13, Allans Rae & Co., general cargo for Quebec
and Montreal, 16 cabin and 407 steerage. The Montreal
Gazette published testimonials to Captain Wylie from the
first class passengers and from the fore-compartment and
the
steerage passengers. Steerage passengers named were George
Stockard, W. Steel, Thomas Scott, and James Piggersgill.

2. The second group of emigrants apparently left Glasgow on
May 30. Although the article says they went on the St
George, that was not possible as the St George was in
Montreal.
The Allan Line had no sailing from Glasgow around June 1,
and
no sailing from Liverpool. At this time, the Allan Line had
cut back on their Glasgow sailings and were giving Glasgow
passengers ferry tickets to Londonderry, where the
passengers joined a Liverpool - Londonderry - Quebec ship.
The closest sailing in time was the Anchor liner United
Kingdom
which left Glasgow on June 3 and arrived at Quebec on June
19 with 542 passengers, which was the largest number ever
brought to Quebec on one steamer.

3. The Montreal Gazette (June 4, 1863) had the following
note: An Emigration Association has been formed at
Carlisle,
and 500 persons are preparing to leave for Canada. A large
number are also emigrating from North Warwickshire.

4. The David G Fleming was built at Saint John, New
Brunswick in 1853. She sailed on North Atlantic routes for
some years. When this trade was taken over by steamships,
she moved to the Australian routes. She was finally wrecked
at Cuba in 1877.

--
Harry Dodsworth Ottawa Ontario Canada


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-- Lorine McGinnis Schulze

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