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From: "Brian Gilchrist" <>
Subject: Re: [ONT] H.M. 77th Regiment
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 21:15:05 -0400
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Hey Doug:

Just a few quick thoughts for you ...

1. If memory serves me correctly the transcription of the St. Andrew's
records is based upon the Roberston transcription. I am not at home now, so
can not check to see if the original records have been compared since.

2. The marriage "certificate" would have (maybe) been given to the couple at
the time of the ceremony, if indeed one was given to them at all.

3. source: Archives of Ontario. District Marriage Registers series. Home
District register, Vol. 2, page 302. Joseph Reid, of Toronto, Bachelor, and
Belle Ann Harrison, Spinster. Married 10 Nov. 1847 in Toronto by Rev. John
Barclay. Witnesses: W. Taylor and Sarah Harrison.

4. As this marriage was performed by a Presbyterian Minister no copy was
required to be entered in either the Anglican registers nor the Roman
Catholic registers.

5. A copy of the marriage may be found with his service record, or it could
be annotated on the page requiring family details. There are several
variables which could play a role in this process.

6. If Joseph died in Toronto before 1900, and if there was indeed a monument
erected to his memory, it seems that that no stone has survived or it is

Hope that this helps.


J. Brian Gilchrist
1966 - 2006: Celebrating 40 years of genealogical research
Box 74503, 270 The Kingsway
Etobicoke, ON
M9A 2H8

----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Porteous" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 4:26 PM
Subject: RE: [ONT] H.M. 77th Regiment

> Bill,
> No, I don't have their marriage certificate, but I do have a fairly
> comprehensive entry from Landmarks of Toronto. The minister was Rev. John
> Barclay.
> Would additional information be available on the original certificate (the
> transcript gives no information about his regiment or occupation)?
> Is there a possibility a copy of the original might be with either the
> United Church, or the Presbyterian Church Archives. I believe Joseph and
> Isabella belonged to St. Andrew's Presbyterian (the current church
> building
> is just east of Roy Thomson Hall). As you suggest, is it also possible a
> copy might be with the Anglican Church Archives?
> I've just done a Google search and found a reference to Rev. John Barclay
> at
> http://www.accessgenealogy.com/scripts/data/database.cgi?file=Data&report=Si
> ngleArticle&ArticleID=0032960.
> Thanks,
> --Doug
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Davidson [mailto:]
> Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 3:23 PM
> To:
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [ONT] H.M. 77th Regiment
> Doug,
> Do you have their marriage certificate? Those serving in the army
> back then had their marriage (if in Canada) registered at the nearest
> Anglican church. I found one of mine in Fredericton, NB in 1816.
> bill
> On 21-May-06, at 3:09 PM, Doug Porteous wrote:
>> Hi Pat,
>> It's all quite confusing to me since my knowledge of military
>> history is
>> quite poor (something I hope to rememdy soon!). One of my biggest
>> challenges
>> is figuring out the various places where Joseph REID might have been
>> garrisoned.
>> I finally found some information at the PRO site that seems to
>> match my
>> Joseph, but the number of regiments he served in seems quite high:
>> "Covering dates 1827-1848
>> Scope and content JOSEPH REED
>> Born DRUMACOZA, Londonderry [Google thinks that should be 'DRUMCOURA
>> Londonderry'] Served in 56th Foot Regiment; 68th Foot Regiment;
>> 77th Foot
>> Regiment; 81st Foot Regiment; 11th Foot Regiment Discharged aged 45"
>> He would have been discharged ca. 1848 (the 1871 census gives his
>> age as 68,
>> indicating a DOB of 1803), the year following his marriage to Isabella
>> Harrison. I'm inferring that the regiment somehow ended up in
>> Toronto (but
>> when, I wonder, did Joseph arrive?).
>> The obit only mentions one regiment (perhaps it was the one he was
>> serving
>> in when he met Isabella, or it was the best known). The "military
>> angle"
>> makes him more interesting than my other gg-grandfathers (George
>> Archibald BELL, Henry MCCUAIG, Peter MCARTHUR, Alexander DOUGLAS,
>> Thomas
>> ARTHURS and Joseph GODSON), who all seemed to be in the "farming
>> business"
>> in Scotland or England. :-)
>> Thanks for your note (I believe I've thanked all other responders
>> offline).
>> Cheers,
>> --Doug
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