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From: "Patricia Corney" <>
Subject: Re: [Ont] Coronations; Pearls; and Jubilee Day
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 08:43:16 -0400
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I have a picture of my grandmother, Elsie Berry's brother, George Joseph
John Berry who could pass as a young King George [present Queen's father].
If my grandmother was alive in the 70', 80's, she would have looked much
like the Queen Mother.

My grandmother often said there was royalty in the background.

Have found her father's [George Henry Berry] family and his Gr grandfather,
William Berry was born at Todenaham-GLS, Gr grandmother was born,
Tachbrook-WAR. His Grandfather was born, Eatington-WAR, Grandmother at
His Father, at Eatington, Stratford on Avon, WAR and he was born, Ettington,
Stratford on Avon, WAR.

But this does not preclude a royal [could be France or England] in the
earlier period [prior to 1757 when his Gr Grandfather was born].

Life is sure interesting.

Pat Corney

Quakertown, PA

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All Right Rights Reserved Patricia I. Corney

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----- Original Message -----
From: "gilchrists" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 12:06 PM
Subject: [Ont] Coronations; Pearls; and Jubilee Day

> I am watching the coverage on the CBC this Jubilee Day, and so far I have
> not been able to see the pearls close enough to be able to tell. From a
> distance and from the front, pearls all look the same - the easiest way to
> tell the difference is by the clasp at the back -which obviously is seldom
> seen.
> At the Guildhall Luncheon Her Majesty did change into the peach / salmon
> outfit, and she changed her brooch to one of the starbursts.
> It is interesting that my mother's paternal grandmother was in attendance
> The Coronation Dinner of Edward VI in 1901. We have the Invitation with
> name on it - ("Mrs. Long") which is the same invitation as Lady Pellatt's
> display at Casa Loma here in Toronto.
> My greatest genealogical dilemma is whether my great grandmother (who was
> born illegitimately) was a love child of Edward's, or was she one of his
> many mistresses?
> Granny Long (nee Tyson) was born in 1872 in the Bethnal Green workhouse
> when she died in 1930 six months after the Depression began, she had 3
> pieces of property here in Ontario, a great deal of cash in the bank, a
> watch surrounded with diamonds, and a 3 strand choker of natural pearls.
> Interesting to note that she seemingly never worked (at a labouring job)
> had an apparent husband / significant other of any sort ...
> Not too shabby for an illegit., whose "husband" I have not a trace of.
> did she get herself invited to a Coronation event at the age of 29, after
> having had 3 children (two of whom were my grandfather and his twin
> By the way my mother's sister could be the Queen's double;
> How do I explain the mystery parcels which used to arrive at my great
> grandmother's house here in Toronto from England by special mail courier
> the 1920's?
> Thirty five years I have been pondering these questions, and in 1967 when
> mother started to ask her father about his mother, Grandmother came into
> room and said in effect to her husband, to keep quiet, you're not supposed
> to talk about the past.
> Interesting way to put it ...
> God Save The Queen
> Long Live The Queen
> J. Brian Gilchrist
> Genealogical and Archival research analyst,
> Box 74503, 270 The Kingsway,
> ETOBICOKE, Ontario M9A 5E2
> "I have the reputation of being fearless and decided, and whether correct
> not, it saves me much trouble." - written by the Honourable and Right
> Reverend John Strachan, 1st Anglican Bishop of Toronto in 1846.
> Cheers! Brian
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "YankeeDD" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:04 AM
> Subject: [Ont] QEII
> > Would like to know, the pearls the Queen is wearing today --- were they
> her
> > mother's?
> >
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