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From: "Jean Payton" <>
Subject: Re: [Ont] Re: Border Crossing Records
Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 20:34:47 -0700
References: <006801c0ea17$fb0db1e0$0101a8c0@w98sysrec>


Cindy

I tried sending this message twice to you but both times it came back saying
you were not a member of Webtv. So I have posted my address to the list.
Also I just checked with www.ingeneas.com and didn't find the ancestor
comining into Canada
Jean


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jean Payton" <>
> To: "Cynthia Elschide" <>
> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 2:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ont] Re: Border Crossing Records
>
>
> >
> >
> > Dear Cindy:
> >
> > If you get out a map of Ontario and Quebec you will see that if the ship
> > came in through the St. Lawrence River into Lake Ontario then it travels
> > Lake Ontario to the Welland Canal which brings it into Lake Erie then
for
> it
> > to get to the Sault Saint Marie in Lake Huorn/Lake Michigan it would
have
> to
> > travel Lake Erie to the Detroit River and then up the Detroit River in
the
> > St. Clair River then up to Lake St. Clair then into Lake Huron and then
> > north to Sault St. Marie. Most ships then didn't travel the Great
Lakes.
> > Ocean Crossing Ships came into the East Coast, Nova Scotia and or
Quebec.
> > Then the people who were on these ships had to travel either by other
> boats
> > and or trains. The most common landing is/was New York and Quebec. and
I
> > have already told you how they travelled that route. If I am reading
you
> > right she stated that she arrived in Sault Ste. Marie on September 1,
> 1923.
> > She couldn't have come directly from Scotland. She had to land at
another
> > port first and then continue her journey. My great grandmother who
lived
> in
> > Port Huron/Sarnia area stated they would take the Train in Canada to
> Toronto
> > and then into New York City and catch a boat back to England. And then
> > return that way also. Sea Going ships didn't travel the Great Lakes
from
> > over seas. By looking at the maps of the US and Canada you will see
that
> > Lake Ontario only connects with Lake Erie and not Lake Huron. It would
be
> a
> > very long trip by way of Lake Erie. They would have come either through
> > Ellis Island and or Grosse Ile, Quebec. But the St. Albans border
> crossings
> > will define where she came into what port and what date. You just need
> to
> > look back and then forward of the Date that she listed as coming into
the
> > US. Ships coming form Scotland namely came in through New York, Boston,
> > Quebec, Nova Scotia. Most direct Routh would have been New York and or
> > Quebec.
> >
> > Since you have the date that she entered the USA you could go on the net
> and
> > type this address in www.ingeneas.com
> > and then follow instructions. It might tell you whether she came in
> through
> > what state and or country from Scotland. My husbands 2 great
garndfather
> > settled in Quebec and came from Scotland and landed in New York and
> > travelled to Quebec from New York. The site I mentioned is where I got
> his
> > info from. After leaving Scotland and settling in Quebec he never left.
> > Jean Payton
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Cynthia Elschide" <>
> > To: "Jean Payton" <>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 9:12 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Ont] Re: Border Crossing Records
> >
> >
> > > I am confused. Can you not travel through the great lakes from the
> > > ocean, to get to Sault Ste Marie? Isn't Sault Ste Marie Ontario Canada
> > > directly across the river from Sault Ste Marie Michigan USA?
> > > She claimed in her petition for citizenship that she arrived in Sault
> > > Ste Marie Ontario on Sept 1, 1923 and came into USA. Not sure if she
> > > entered the same day but that is what we were to understand from the
> > > document.
> > > We didn't read it as that she came into Canada itself on that day but
> > > that she arrived in Sault Ste marie that day.
> > > Hopefully we can clear this up. Other wise I am more confused than I
> > > was. No one has ever said she couldn't have traveled the great lakes
to
> > > that point. I just heard that the ship was possibly the Montlaurier
and
> > > that the records would be the St Albans Vermont records.
> > > Thanks for the info
> > > Cindy
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

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