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From: "Bev Fisher" <>
Subject: Re: [ONTARIO] [Fwd: ] Selina & Hamilton Obits]
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 10:45:03 -0700
I am going to enter my 2 cents worth.
Selina was not the first moderator of this list. She doesn't have the
common decency to reply to the list when there is an issue that should be
Maybe she did pay money to be the moderator of this list, I don't know, but
I get the feeling that if she wants her list of over 900 people she had
better start responding to this issue as it seems as if a lot of people are
getting ready to leave.
Selina, the members of this list would like to receive an answer from you.
If no one hears from me again, it is because I have been kicked off the
list. But I am putting a time limit on how long I will wait to hear an
answer before I willingly Unsubscribe from this list.
Canada is a free country and the last I heard Ontario was in Canada.
Therefore the same should apply to this list. If it relates to genealogy it
should be allowed.
Just remember, Selina, all of us can take the help we offer to somewhere
else and offer it there.
Gifts From Canada
From: O'Meara <>
Date: Sunday, October 03, 1999 9:25 AM
Subject: [ONTARIO] [Fwd: ] Selina & Hamilton Obits]
>I thought those on our Ontario mailing list would be interested in how
>our community feels. Below is a message from Jim Church - seems I'm
>already getting heat for my opinions - so be it.
>Jim does have one point that I have missed - if Selina did pay money to
>start this mailing list then he is right. We do not have the right to
>tell her what to do and it seems that we have no say in the matter.
>This is her mailing list and not the communities.
>Also, Jim asked what I would do when someone asks me to do something on
>a list that I own??????? Well, I got a news flash for you Jim, I am a
>list owner for the O'Meara mailing list - THAT I CREATED!!!!!!! And we
>did have a situation come up and how I handled it was to ask the mailing
>list's consensus on what they would like to have happen. Thats how I
>handled it. If you don't believe me then you can subscribe to my
>mailing list at:
>AND ASK THEM YOURSELF! You know Jim, your real quick to jump on a band
>wagon to attempt to point out that I'm not a Moderator of any list or
>not willing to go out of my way to create a Ontario mailing list, but
>you really need to research what you are talking about before you shoot
>your mouth off.
>I still concur with you that if Selina paid money to start the Ontario
>mailing list then I have no right to tell her what to do. You have no
>argument from me there, but I still have a right to voice my opinions.
>And if you'd like to see
>me put my money where my mouth is?? Well here it is, it may not have
>required me to put any money into it, but I'm definitely not all talk
>and no action.
>If anyone is interested I have created a mailing list for Ontario
>If anyone has any questions they can contact me directly. I have been
>using this site for over a year for my O'Meara mailing list and it
>really is set up quite nicely. And the other site I posted previously:
>Has been around for quite some time and has always been a nice choice.
>It appears that if Jim is right, then these are our only options for
>recourse. There is also the Canadian mailing list at:
>Which also has been around for years and is one of my favorites.
>Thought I'd throw out the options in case anyone is interested. Since
>this list is "Selina's only" since she paid for it and we don't have any
>say in the matter it's always nice to have options.
>Maybe this will keep people like Jim happy from those of us who are just
>List Moderator for the "O'Meara Mailing List" and the "OntarioGen
>-------- Original Message --------
>Subject: ] Selina & Hamilton Obits
>Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 09:51:41 -0600
>At 11:34 AM 10/3/1999 -0400, you wrote:
>>I have been listening to everyone's postings to this situation and so
>>far the general consensus has been that Selina was wrong and should make
>>the situation right.
>> As far as I know Selina has paid her money into Rootsweb to run the
>Ontario List. Who are we to tell her how to tun it. If you ran it you
>run it as you see fit. Where in your title does it tell you what can and
>cannot be on a list. I may not agree with what she has done but it is
>her choice her list. Have you paid any money into Rootsweb to control a
>list? Put your money where your mouth is and start your own list. Since
>Ontariuo is taken why not start a ONTARIO Obits list up. Selina put up
>money lets see you do the same. If she doesn't want it posted here that
>her choice, if you owned the list and someone posted something that you
>didn't agree with then what would you do. IS it your list since you paid
>the money to operate it or is it everybody else's list since they
>to it. Lets get real here woman, what right do you have to tell the
>Listowner of any List what they can and cannot have on THEIR list? It is
>not YOUR list it is THEIR list, you only subscribe to it, they own it
>put their money up front instead of talked about it, like you are doing.
>Put some money up front and stop bitching about it and do something
>it. If someone tells you how to operate something that you own what do
>tell them? Do you do as they say or do you do as you want to do, which
>the right way. I am tired of all this bickering and I bet a lot of other
>people probably are too, just go on your merry way and if Selina loses
>her subscribers to the Northwest site then it is her money she has lost
>not yours, an it is also her business and not yours, whether I agree
>Selina or not she is still the listowner until you put your money in you
>cannot coment on anything. Where does it say Listowner on your name