OHGEN-L ArchivesArchiver > OHGEN > 1999-06 > 0930803272
From: "James McCluer" <>
Subject: Re: [OHGEN-L] Yahoo!
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 23:27:52 -0500
Nice try by Yahoo, but it contradicts what is in their terms of service.
Also, you cannot access your website unless you update your password.
(this also includes deletion of data.) To get a password you must agree
to the Terms of Service as stated. In other words, agree to what we
have written in the Terms of Service or you can't use geocities to close
down your web site. I agree with the last statement. But, they do not
even provide an easily accessible email for complaints on this matter.
Some Online Service Providers make it easy to send email to say, okay
I'm quiting and have removed data from my website. Yahoo has not given
this option, so in my opinion their motives are suspect.
Read the actual Terms of Service agreement again below. Perpetual?
irrevocable? Incorporate works into any form? Sheesh <grin> Perpetual
and irrevocable means even after I leave geocities.
"By submitting Content to any Yahoo property, you automatically grant,
or warrant that the owner of such Content has expressly granted, Yahoo
the royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive and fully
sublicensable right and license to use, reproduce, modify, adapt,
publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute, perform
and display such Content (in whole or part) worldwide and/or to
incorporate it in other works in any form, media, or technology now
known or later developed"
From: Wally Garchow <>
Date: Wednesday, June 30, 1999 11:22 PM
Subject: [OHGEN-L] Yahoo!
>Here is a letter circulating purporting to be from Yahoo!
>Thank you for contacting us re: Yahoo! GeoCities.
>We'd like to be really clear - Yahoo! does not claim to own content
>submitted to it by its users.
>Our Terms of Service require homesteaders to grant us the right to
>reproduce and otherwise use their content when we post and maintain it
>on the Yahoo! Network. There are simple and important reasons we have
>this policy and they are designed to benefit you. Listed below are two
>of the biggest reasons:
>1. When you upload a Web page or image to us, we often need to copy it
>to put it on the many computers that we use to serve home pages to
>people that want to look at your page. We need you to give us the right
>to copy and reproduce that content.
>2. We also might want to feature your home page on the front page of
>Yahoo! GeoCities or elsewhere on the Yahoo! Network, so you can get
>people to see your page. We need to have that right; otherwise we
>couldn't reproduce this content.
>Yahoo! has always been focused on providing users with a compelling
>experience on the Web, and the Terms of Service are standard throughout
>the Yahoo! Network. We hope you understand that all of our actions are
>taken with you, the user, in mind.
>Thank you again for taking the time to write to us.
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