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From: "NColeman" <>
Subject: Re: [NYSUFFOL] Researching Long Island
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 06:31:46 -0500
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Dear Ceal:

No, they weren't confused at all. Hempstead, Long Island.

I don't quite understand your confusion with this... :)
but, I suspect it has something
to do with the fact that you may consider Long Island
somehow not associated with Queens. Queens County is, AND
HAS ALWAYS BEEN, on the island of Long Island. There is no
river separating Queens and Brooklyn from the rest of Long
Island. It's all one big island and both Brooklyn (King's
County) and Queens County are physically on the island of
Long Island (or the island of Nassau, as the native Indians
used to call it).

I hope this clears up the confusion... :) Remember, get
yourself a good map...

Best regards. Nancy.
NColeman

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ceal Wutka" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [NYSUFFOL] Researching Long Island


> Thanks, I'll save all this. But what would be the
Hempstead, Long Island
> references that appear quite a bit. Did an earlier
researcher get confused
> on the area?
>
> Ceal
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "NColeman" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 11:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [NYSUFFOL] Researching Long Island
>
>
> > Dear Ceal:
> > No, Madnan's Neck is just that, not Madman's. It is
what is
> > today Great Neck, Town of North Hempstead, Nassau
County.
> > Cow Neck is what is today Port Washington and Manhasset,
> > Town of North Hempstead, Nassau County.
> >
> > However, you have to put things into historical
perspective.
> > At one time the village center of Manhasset was at the
head
> > of Manhasset Bay with Madnan's Neck on one side and Cow
Neck
> > on the other. So, Cow Neck or Madnan's could be used as
a
> > rough "border" for a location, and very often was -
> > sometimes erroneously.
> >
> > Time line:
> > The Town of North Hempstead was a part of Queens County
> > until 1898 when Queens became a part of New York City
and
> > Nassau County was formed independent of the city. The
three
> > towns that seceded (finding their home county half in
and
> > half out of NYC) were North Hempstead, Hempstead, and
Oyster
> > Bay. They make up Nassau today.
> >
> > Further, the Town of North Hempstead was formed from the
> > Town of Hempstead in 1784. So, for the period before
that,
> > you would look to the Town of Hempstead for any
reference in
> > Town Records that may involve that area.
> >
> > For the period you are interested in, the whole area was
> > Town of Hempstead, Queens County. Any documents you
seek
> > will be held by the Queens Surrogate's Court (probates)
or
> > the Finance Dept. of NYC (Queens) for deeds. And, as
> > previously mentioned, the Town of Hempstead for any
records
> > they may hold.
> >
> > Here are some sites to give you a little history and
> > geography background on Manhasset:
> > http://manhasset.org/history/
> > Great Neck:
> > http://www.lihistory.com/spectown/hist0029.htm
> > Formation of "Greater" NYC:
> > http://www.lihistory.com/lihj/lihj98.htm
> >
> > The last two are from Newsday's "Long Island Our Story"
> > series which, if you want to read further, will also be
> > helpful in giving you a general idea of the history and
> > geography of the area.
> >
> > That should get you started. Also, I do recommend
getting a
> > good map. But, keep in mind that the borders in 1720
may
> > not be the borders or names of places today.
> >
> > Best regards. Nancy.
> >
> > NColeman
> >
> > NYC/Long Island Family History Research Services:
> > http://www.genealogyPro.com/ncoleman.html
> > County Coordinator for the Nassau GenExchange:
> >
http://www.genexchange.org/county.cfm?state=ny&county=nassau
> > Irish Family History Forum - VP Membership
> > http://www.ifhf.org email:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ceal Wutka" <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 9:57 AM
> > Subject: Re: [NYSUFFOL] Researching Long Island
> >
> >
> > > The place was Hempstead, Long Island, and a search on
a
> > geographic server
> > > didn't show Queens as a possibility.
> > >
> > > I suppose I really need to find a much older map of
New
> > York to try and
> > > figure out exactly where they were. About 1720 they
have
> > a son born in
> > > Madnan's Neck, Long Island (bet that is Madman's?).
From
> > the information I
> > > have, this seems to be part of Hempstead and has
"Cow's
> > Neck" in parentheses
> > > beside the name. They appear in Monmouth County, NJ
not
> > long after about
> > > 1722.
> > >
> > > Ceal
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "NColeman" <>
> > > To: <>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 6:52 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [NYSUFFOL] Researching Long Island
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hempstead Village and the larger "Town" was a part
of
> > Queens
> > > > County in 1690, long before that section broke off
and
> > > > became Nassau County. So, you are probably still
> > interested
> > > > in the Town, and possibly the village within the
Town,
> > of
> > > > Hempstead, Queens County.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards. Nancy.
> > > > NColeman
> > > >
> > > > NYC/Long Island Family History Research Services:
> > > > http://www.genealogyPro.com/ncoleman.html
> > > > County Coordinator for the Nassau GenExchange:
> > > >
> >
http://www.genexchange.org/county.cfm?state=ny&county=nassau
> > > > Irish Family History Forum - VP Membership
> > > > http://www.ifhf.org email:
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Ceal Wutka" <>
> > > > To: <>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 11:13 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [NYSUFFOL] Researching Long Island
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I am definitely not looking for the Village then,
> > since I
> > > > am looking for
> > > > > Hempstead, Long Island, Ny, around 1690. Nassau
> > County
> > > > wasn't founded until
> > > > > 1898.
> > > > >
> > > > > Ceal
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: <>
> > > > > To: <>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 10:40 AM
> > > > > Subject: [NYSUFFOL] Researching Long Island
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 12/12/2000 (9:10:02 AM EST), Ceal
> > ()
> > > > asks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Was Hempstead, Long Island in Suffolk County?
This
> > is
> > > > the town I have
> > > > > for
> > > > > > some of my BURDGE ancesters."
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Village of Hempstead, the Town of Hempstead
and
> > the
> > > > Hempstead, NY
> > > > > 11550
> > > > > > postal zone all have different borders, but they
do
> > have
> > > > one thing in
> > > > > common
> > > > > > -- they are all in Nassau County.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Village of Hempstead (incorporated in 1853)
is
> > in
> > > > the Town of
> > > > > Hempstead.
> > > > > > Separately, there is the Hempstead, NY 11550
postal
> > > > zone, which has a
> > > > > > different border than does the Village of
Hamlet,
> > > > although it too is in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > Town of Hempstead. There are 22 villages and 36
> > hamlets
> > > > all or partly in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > Town of Hempstead.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > . acres
> > > > > > . Village of Hempstead 2,327
> > > > > > . Hempstead, NY 11550 2,652
> > > > > > . Town of Hempstead 22,621
> > > > > >
> > > > > > As you can see from the above, about 12.5% of
the
> > places
> > > > that have a
> > > > > > "Hempstead" mailing address are not in the
Village
> > of
> > > > Hempstead.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For those who have their copy of the 1998 or
1999 LI
> > > > Population Survey or
> > > > > > have already downloaded the report from the
Suffolk
> > > > County Cooperative
> > > > > > Library web site (eMail me directly if you need
> > > > instructions on how to
> > > > > access
> > > > > > and download the report), you'll find the
Village of
> > > > Hempstead
> > > > > (incorporated
> > > > > > in 1853) in the Town of Hempstead, Nassau County
on
> > > > pages 5 & 8 (map) and
> > > > > 9
> > > > > > (population estimate).
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I hope this information is useful or, at least,
> > > > interesting.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Walter Greenspan
> > > > > >
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