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From: "Ceal Wutka" <>
Subject: Re: [NYSUFFOL] Researching Long Island
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 11:39:39 -0500
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Thanks, I'll save all this. But what would be the Hempstead, Long Island
references that appear quite a bit. Did an earlier researcher get confused
on the area?

Ceal

----- Original Message -----
From: "NColeman" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [NYSUFFOL] Researching Long Island


> Dear Ceal:
> No, Madnan's Neck is just that, not Madman's. It is what is
> today Great Neck, Town of North Hempstead, Nassau County.
> Cow Neck is what is today Port Washington and Manhasset,
> Town of North Hempstead, Nassau County.
>
> However, you have to put things into historical perspective.
> At one time the village center of Manhasset was at the head
> of Manhasset Bay with Madnan's Neck on one side and Cow Neck
> on the other. So, Cow Neck or Madnan's could be used as a
> rough "border" for a location, and very often was -
> sometimes erroneously.
>
> Time line:
> The Town of North Hempstead was a part of Queens County
> until 1898 when Queens became a part of New York City and
> Nassau County was formed independent of the city. The three
> towns that seceded (finding their home county half in and
> half out of NYC) were North Hempstead, Hempstead, and Oyster
> Bay. They make up Nassau today.
>
> Further, the Town of North Hempstead was formed from the
> Town of Hempstead in 1784. So, for the period before that,
> you would look to the Town of Hempstead for any reference in
> Town Records that may involve that area.
>
> For the period you are interested in, the whole area was
> Town of Hempstead, Queens County. Any documents you seek
> will be held by the Queens Surrogate's Court (probates) or
> the Finance Dept. of NYC (Queens) for deeds. And, as
> previously mentioned, the Town of Hempstead for any records
> they may hold.
>
> Here are some sites to give you a little history and
> geography background on Manhasset:
> http://manhasset.org/history/
> Great Neck:
> http://www.lihistory.com/spectown/hist0029.htm
> Formation of "Greater" NYC:
> http://www.lihistory.com/lihj/lihj98.htm
>
> The last two are from Newsday's "Long Island Our Story"
> series which, if you want to read further, will also be
> helpful in giving you a general idea of the history and
> geography of the area.
>
> That should get you started. Also, I do recommend getting a
> good map. But, keep in mind that the borders in 1720 may
> not be the borders or names of places today.
>
> Best regards. Nancy.
>
> NColeman
>
> NYC/Long Island Family History Research Services:
> http://www.genealogyPro.com/ncoleman.html
> County Coordinator for the Nassau GenExchange:
> http://www.genexchange.org/county.cfm?state=ny&county=nassau
> Irish Family History Forum - VP Membership
> http://www.ifhf.org email:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ceal Wutka" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 9:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [NYSUFFOL] Researching Long Island
>
>
> > The place was Hempstead, Long Island, and a search on a
> geographic server
> > didn't show Queens as a possibility.
> >
> > I suppose I really need to find a much older map of New
> York to try and
> > figure out exactly where they were. About 1720 they have
> a son born in
> > Madnan's Neck, Long Island (bet that is Madman's?). From
> the information I
> > have, this seems to be part of Hempstead and has "Cow's
> Neck" in parentheses
> > beside the name. They appear in Monmouth County, NJ not
> long after about
> > 1722.
> >
> > Ceal
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "NColeman" <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 6:52 AM
> > Subject: Re: [NYSUFFOL] Researching Long Island
> >
> >
> > > Hempstead Village and the larger "Town" was a part of
> Queens
> > > County in 1690, long before that section broke off and
> > > became Nassau County. So, you are probably still
> interested
> > > in the Town, and possibly the village within the Town,
> of
> > > Hempstead, Queens County.
> > >
> > > Best regards. Nancy.
> > > NColeman
> > >
> > > NYC/Long Island Family History Research Services:
> > > http://www.genealogyPro.com/ncoleman.html
> > > County Coordinator for the Nassau GenExchange:
> > >
> http://www.genexchange.org/county.cfm?state=ny&county=nassau
> > > Irish Family History Forum - VP Membership
> > > http://www.ifhf.org email:
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ceal Wutka" <>
> > > To: <>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 11:13 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [NYSUFFOL] Researching Long Island
> > >
> > >
> > > > I am definitely not looking for the Village then,
> since I
> > > am looking for
> > > > Hempstead, Long Island, Ny, around 1690. Nassau
> County
> > > wasn't founded until
> > > > 1898.
> > > >
> > > > Ceal
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <>
> > > > To: <>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 10:40 AM
> > > > Subject: [NYSUFFOL] Researching Long Island
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 12/12/2000 (9:10:02 AM EST), Ceal
> ()
> > > asks,
> > > > >
> > > > > "Was Hempstead, Long Island in Suffolk County? This
> is
> > > the town I have
> > > > for
> > > > > some of my BURDGE ancesters."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The Village of Hempstead, the Town of Hempstead and
> the
> > > Hempstead, NY
> > > > 11550
> > > > > postal zone all have different borders, but they do
> have
> > > one thing in
> > > > common
> > > > > -- they are all in Nassau County.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Village of Hempstead (incorporated in 1853) is
> in
> > > the Town of
> > > > Hempstead.
> > > > > Separately, there is the Hempstead, NY 11550 postal
> > > zone, which has a
> > > > > different border than does the Village of Hamlet,
> > > although it too is in
> > > > the
> > > > > Town of Hempstead. There are 22 villages and 36
> hamlets
> > > all or partly in
> > > > the
> > > > > Town of Hempstead.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > . acres
> > > > > . Village of Hempstead 2,327
> > > > > . Hempstead, NY 11550 2,652
> > > > > . Town of Hempstead 22,621
> > > > >
> > > > > As you can see from the above, about 12.5% of the
> places
> > > that have a
> > > > > "Hempstead" mailing address are not in the Village
> of
> > > Hempstead.
> > > > >
> > > > > For those who have their copy of the 1998 or 1999 LI
> > > Population Survey or
> > > > > have already downloaded the report from the Suffolk
> > > County Cooperative
> > > > > Library web site (eMail me directly if you need
> > > instructions on how to
> > > > access
> > > > > and download the report), you'll find the Village of
> > > Hempstead
> > > > (incorporated
> > > > > in 1853) in the Town of Hempstead, Nassau County on
> > > pages 5 & 8 (map) and
> > > > 9
> > > > > (population estimate).
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I hope this information is useful or, at least,
> > > interesting.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Walter Greenspan
> > > > >
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