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From: "Bill or Cathy McGrath" <>
Subject: Re: [HudsonRV] John Carroll question
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 22:04:55 -0500
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The query on John Carroll in Kingston caught my eye.

My great-grandfather was JAMES CARROLL, born somewhere in Ireland around May
1852. His parents were Lawrence Carroll and Dora Conroy. He apparently
came to Hurley, near Kingston at the age of 18.

The 1870 census shows him at age 20 living in Hurley and working as a
stonecutter. He is living with:
John Dolan
Mary Dolan
Sarah Dolan
Peter Dolan
Michael Dugan
Michael Harris.

He marries a Mary Dunn and has four daughters in Hurley. Moves to Troy, New
York in the 1870's and dies there on August 11, 1907.

Have no idea if any siblings came to the US with him or what siblings there
were in Ireland.

Regards,

Bill McGrath
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marlena Amalfitano" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: [HudsonRV] John Carroll question


> It could also be the farm was close to town or the local school and his
> parents may have lived too far away for him to commute, so he borded there
> to go to school in exchange for hired hand chores.
>
>
> >From: Joyce Weaver <>
> >Reply-To:
> >To:
> >Subject: Re: [HudsonRV] John Carroll question
> >Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 08:22:07 -0500
> >
> >My guess is that that your young man did go to school in the winter,
> >possibly his
> >last year. After all, even today many students graduate at 17 and in his
> >day,
> >many dropped out long before that. There's no way of knowing whether he
> >worked
> >on that farm or another in previous summers, but it looks to me like he
was
> >a
> >farm hand rather than an apprentice. I'm basing that on the apparent
lack
> >of an
> >occupation for him. It's probably not always true, but I know I've seen
> >occ.
> >like "apprentice carpenter" on other census listings.
> >
> >Some of the individuals listed may have been boarders, either summer or
> >year-round, as well as farmhands. (Though I'd expect occupations for
male
> >names
> >if boarders).
> >
> >Joy Weaver
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I have found my great-grandfather, JOHN CARROLL, living on a farm in
> > > Kingston, NY in the 1850 census. The farm is owned by a family named
> > > Nichols. John is 17 at the time and listed as having attended school
> >that
> > > year. The Nichols family consists of a mother, father and two
children.
> > > There are 14 other people living on the farm which includes what seems
> >to be
> > > a mother and her 3 children. The remaining 11 people all have
different
> >last
> > > names. I am curious what the situation was. Was John Carroll an
> >apprentice,
> > > or something similar. If so, I am surprised he is listed as having
> >attended
> > > school during the year. Did farm help go to school during the winter?
> > > Anyone with any insights on this I would appreciate your comments.
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