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From: "Thomas E. Lassek" <>
Subject: Re: [NEPLATTE] Burials at Lasek and Borowiak sites
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 00:22:52 -0600
" .. Diane L wrote: "My dilemma has been and still is whether posting these on a site
could be considered an invasion of privacy since these are church records
rather than public records. Opinions?"
Hi Di...............I am one of the lucky ones. Yay! Regarding the privacy concern. The FHL is your prime example. They have copied church records all over the world. (well almost) They were given permission where they did it, and people know they are accessible to anyone. Now, if I went to a church and the pastor asked that none of these be passed on, I would honor that request. Also, most people .."
From the legal perspective, the best thing to do is to consult a lawyer. From the church's perspective, you can send a letter to any one of a number of Archdiocese's to see what their official position is on the matter. From a personal perspective, you can post them if you want to or not.
I get the sense that you are most concerned in that your posting records anywhere could possibly cause a Family embarassment. It's good that you would consider this, many don't.
Putting out my "shingle" for a moment, it would appear to me that if you enter into a verbal contract with a church priest or his authorized records manager, whether you give an "offering" or not, you are free to do with the information as you so see fit. Fortunately, genelogists have a good head on their shoulder's and it's doubtful that they would intentionally use the record information for nefarious reasons.
If the priest or records manager put's restrictions on your use of the records or the record information, you would have to honor that stipulation because that was a condition of procurement.
I've researched this subject on the web now for about an hour and I found nothing that prohibited a genealogist from using the data in the public domain. In fact, it appears that the Vatican is concerning with openess with respect to genealogy and actually helps the genealogist obtain the records. The Vatican web site has a genealogy section where one can obtain records or do research, and I note that the Archdiocese of Detroit photo copied it's Sacramental records and gave them to the local public libraries for dissemination.
The only "no no" is to let the LDS further copy Catholic records.
FYI -- I have long sought the logistics behind the LDS' need to photo copy all records. I havent been totally successful, however, it appears as if the LDS has dedicated teams that operate on a schedule, to go to the area's where records are to be copied, and actually perform the work. Prior to that, there appears again to be a team, but this first team is responsible for obtaining permission and enter into contract with the records repository concerning the use of the record's and it's information.
Again, I can't get anyone to tell me much about the procedures that they use in order to obtain access to the records, but I was told that there was money involved. It stands to reason that there would be. The LDS has pretty-much got this record copying down to a science and art. If you'd like to review a LDS contract concerning use of the record info, try to insert information on the LDS website somewhere and read the contract you have to "click" as acceptance.
I also know, that at times, as a contract condition, some of the filmed material is considered "confidential" and can't be photo copied. Here, to my knowledge, the LDS abides by the letter of law on these things.
Anyway, enough typing. I recommend you put the information in subject out in the public domain and let Sherri Post it.
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