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From: "fredandfran" <>
Subject: Re: [NCSAMPSO] Duplin/Sampson County Carrolls
Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 22:33:04 -0400
References: <20060408222958.48812.qmail@web52801.mail.yahoo.com> <002b01c65b64$232e6c60$6401a8c0@lura2004>


Hi Lura:

I have sent you three emails in the past several weeks that have been
treated as spam. Hopefully, you can fix that?

Fran

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lura" <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 7:28 PM
Subject: Re: [NCSAMPSO] Duplin/Sampson County Carrolls


> Thanks, Jim,
>
> I have referred to your genealogy page often for several years. Thank you
for providing that. Having something like that always
> helps provide a direction for us to research for ourselves.
>
> You just don't have much related to the CARROLL families except Jesse.
>
> Thanks,
> Lura
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Cooke" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 6:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [NCSAMPSO] Duplin/Sampson County Carrolls
>
>
> : My CHESNUTT, COOK, and HOLLINGSWORTH families married
> : CARROLLs. They all lived adjacent to or within five
> : miles of Six Runs Creek. I see Hardy and Jesse
> : Carroll. You can find some data at http://cookes.us .
> :
> : Jim Cooke
> :
> : --- Lura <> wrote:
> :
> : > As a follow-up to the letter I wrote last week....
> : >
> : > A map sent to me (probably 1800-1850 era) shows a
> : > spot near the northern end of one part of the
> : > NorthEast River near the Wayne County border labeled
> : > as CARROLL'S PT. I had not been aware of that named
> : > geographical location. Does anyone know how it
> : > acquired that name? This would not be too far from
> : > the Great Branch that runs into the NorthEast River
> : > where William Carrall MAY have patented land in
> : > 1753. .
> : >
> : > Let me tell you why I had hoped William Carroll's
> : > 1753 grant on "the Great Branch of the Cape Fear"
> : > would be in the Sampson Co. side near Six Runs Creek
> : > where most of the Carroll families lived. If
> : > William had come there in 1753, it might suggest an
> : > earlier generation for some Carroll families.
> : >
> : > Several other people and I are working together
> : > researching all the 10 Carroll families in the 1790
> : > Census. Nine were in Sampson County and one was just
> : > across the Duplin County line which had been drawn
> : > six years earlier. After years of research, none of
> : > us can go back further, although we have many
> : > possibilities.
> : >
> : > The 1790 Heads of Household are:
> : > CARRELL Hardy
> : >
> : > CARROL Alexander
> : > CARROL Demey (Dempsey, Jr.)
> : >
> : > CARROL Demcy (Dempsey, Sr.)
> : > CARROL Elisha
> : > CARROL Elizabeth
> : > CARROL James
> : > CARROL Jesse
> : > CARROL John, Sr.
> : >
> : > CARROL Stephen
> : >
> : >
> : > DNA has proven that Dempsey,Sr., Dempsey,Jr.,
> : > Alexander, and Jesse were closely related as we
> : > suspected. These all owned adjacent land near Rowan
> : > Swamp and Cane/Crain Creek just west of Six Runs
> : > Creek. Also living there with land joining were
> : > Thomas, Stephen, James, John, Elisha, and at times
> : > Moses. We know very little about Elizabeth.
> : > Mentioned as witnesses for deeds or wills in that
> : > area were also Edmund and Manson. Families living
> : > in the same area who we believe intermarried with
> : > these Carrolls are Scott and Rackley.
> : >
> : > DNA has also proven that John W. Carroll (born
> : > 1789), who was living in the northern part of
> : > Sampson around from about 1825 until going to TN in
> : > 1848, was not closely related to the other group. He
> : > may have come into the county later, or there may
> : > have been at least two separate lines of Carrolls in
> : > Sampson/Duplin County..
> : >
> : > Jesse C. became prosperous with land, slaves, a
> : > mill, and a still - maybe for making beverage, but
> : > more likely for distilling turpentine, since the
> : > Carrolls were said to be involved in the Naval
> : > Stores industry. A few of the Carroll descendants
> : > settled in the area, but many families left Sampson
> : > by 1820. Known destinations include GA, AL, SC, and
> : > TN. My ancestor, Major Hardy Carrell, son of
> : > Alexander C. and Lucy Ryal/Royal, married and
> : > settled in Stokes County, NC in 1815.
> : >
> : > Most of us know about our families after they left
> : > Sampson, so our main interest in our Carroll
> : > research is the period of time BEFORE 1820 and
> : > especially before 1790.
> : >
> : > It is possible that a John Carroll, with his wife
> : > Mary and children John, Joseph, Rachel, and Dorcas,
> : > was in the area very early, maybe by 1740. It was
> : > suggested by Virginia Carroll Foster in her book
> : > "Virginia Carrolls and their Neighbors" he might
> : > have been an indentured servant who arrived in the
> : > colonies in 1736. However, we have been unable to
> : > find information about him until his Duplin Co will
> : > in 1761.
> : >
> : > There are several family legends about the origin of
> : > these Carrolls who settled on Six Runs Creek. They
> : > MAY be related to Charles Carroll or Carrollton.
> : > Several brothers MAY have come to the area directly
> : > from Ireland or England. They MAY have come from
> : > counties to the Northeast. Several Carrolls dotted
> : > Bertie, Craven, Northampton, Edgecombe, and Johnston
> : > Counties with similar names to those in Sampson. We
> : > know a DEMCY and a Thomas lived in Halifax in 1752.
> : > These MAY be related to the Carroll family in Isle
> : > of Wight County, VA before 1700.
> : >
> : > Other Land Grants besides the one for William are
> : > all located in the area that was Archdale Precinct
> : > of Bath County before 1712, Craven Co 1712 to 1729,
> : > New Hanover Co 1729 to 1750, Duplin Co (and St.
> : > Gabriel Parish) 1750 to 1784, and Sampson Co after
> : > 1784. [On a map labeled as 1779 at
> : >
> : http://www.libs.uga.edu/darchive/hargrett/maps/1779n4.jpg
> : > the area is labeled as PELHAM County???]
> : >
> : > These grants were for land in Duplin Co west of Six
> : > Runs Creek near Rowan Swamp and Cain/Crane Creek and
> : > located in what became Sampson County. Jesse had
> : > land on both sides of Six Runs Creek, and Hardy
> : > later received a grant in the edge of Duplin Co.
> : >
> : > Jesse:
> : > 1768 200 ac West side Six Runs
> : > 1769 100 ac East side of Cain Creek (Which was
> : > west of Six Runs Creek)
> : > 1773 200 ac. East side of Six Runs
> : >
> : > Thomas
> : > 1770 100 ac E. side of Cain Creek (Which was west
> : > of Six Runs Creek)
> : > 1770 150 ac E. side of Crain Creek (Which was west
> : > of Six Runs Creek)
> : >
> : > Demsey
> : > 1770 168 ac. West side of Six Runs
> : > 1778 150 ac West of Rowan Marsh (which is W of 6
> : > Runs, just north of headwaters of Crane Creek.
> : >
> : > John
> : > 1772, 1775 100 ac West of Six Runs Creek
> : >
> : > Alexander
> : > 1785 200 ac (Sampson Co after division in 1784)
> : > West side of Six Runs Creek near headwaters of Cain
> : > Creek
> : >
> : > There may be other grants. Several deeds of land
> : > bought and sold were also in this area. This is
> : > south/southeast of present day Clinton.
> : >
> : > ** Since Article #530 in the Sampson County Heritage
> : > Book says, " In 1767 John Carroll sold his interest
> : > in his father's estate along Six Runs to his brother
> : > Jesse Carroll and moved up Big Coharie," I want to
> : > know the name of this Father. It wasn't John whose
> : > will was probated in 1761, since he appears to list
> : > all his children and there is no Jesse. It wasn't
> : > William who patented land on the "Great Branch" IF
> : > that was in northern Duplin Co.
> : >
> : > If you are still reading to here.... Thank you for
> : > your interest and any help you might can give us in
> : > knowing exactly WHERE the grant of William was
> : > located and/or who were the parents of John and
> : > Jesse (and any others in the 1790 census.)
> : >
> : > If there are others researching Sampson County
> : > Carrolls with whom I am not corresponding, please
> : > write to me at
> : >
> : > Lura CARROLL Southard
> : >
> : >
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