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Subject: Re: [NA-INDIAN-TRADERS] trying to figure out the family mess-REPLY
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:36:20 -0400
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My children are supposed to be descended from the Clarke brothers.? My son has the typical Clark red hair, the only one in the family that does.
From: Betty Bivins <>
Sent: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 1:39 am
Subject: [NA-INDIAN-TRADERS] trying to figure out the family mess-REPLY
This story does not seem to be so bizarre or out of kilter for the times in
which these people lived.
In studying different cultures, there have always been some of one culture
who had enough sense/insight/instinct or whatever we choose to call it to
align themselves with the people they believed were going to come out on
top/be the winners/be the most prosperous, etc.
During this time in history, we might not admire these traits but when you
think about how poor the Indian tribes were (the belief that they lived in a
paradise is a myth-only the Am Indians who lived in the Ohio mound builders
and the large differently shaped animals that you can see from the ground
but much better from the towers that they provide in that park area lived in
a habitat that had enough plentiful food that they had time to build those
mounds because they did not have to spend every waking hour hunting and
working to survive. I can't remember the exact name of the place now but it
Bad sentences but it is late here.
I feel sure that there is someone on this list that will know more accurate
and more information about this subject.
In Vincennes(sp?) Illinois where there is a beautiful monument to George
Rogers Clark, brother of William Clark of the Lewis and Clark Expedition,
there is a book store in the National Park office with books
(novels-historical) by the author James Thom who is married to an AM Indian.
He has done some excellent research and his works were recommended to me by
a PhD who teaches at a college in that area. You can Goggle him an get a
list of his books.
I wish you luck in untangling your web-it might prove very difficult unless
you can locate some diaries or perhaps later newspaper articles written by
white people who lived in these areas. I would try to locate every book
written about each of these counties and search them.
enjoy your good hunting.
betty in ga
I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR ANYONE OUT THERE. SOME OF MY FAMILY HAS BEEN
TOLD MY DIFFERENT DENTISTS THAT THE FACT
THAT SOME OF US HAVE MORE ROOTS TO
SOME OF OUR TEETH THAN IS CONSIDERED "NORMAL"-AS PER THE MEDICAL BOOKS-THAT
THIS IS INDICATIVE OF AN AMRERICAN INDIAN ANCESTRY. ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [NA-INDIAN-TRADERS] trying to figure out the family mess
> What blood type is prevelent in the lines that seem to deal with the
> Native Americans?
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 5:25 pm
> Subject: [NA-INDIAN-TRADERS] trying to figure out the family mess
> I hope someone out there might hold the answers to the family mess that
> seems to
> be getting bigger and more of a headache than I care to deal with. I hope
> that I
> have located the right list, if not I'm so sorry for wasting everyones
> time. I
> understand this list is for those that delt with Indian traders, the
> problem is
> I'm not sure if my lines are in that.
> The dreaded family stories throw us in the mix and what has been located
> seem to
> have put us in the blender of mass confusion.
> The line that has caused all this is a George RENFROE/RENFRO/RENFROW
> poss. in Pa. George and also the lines of ROBINETTE his mothers lines
> in North Carolina and later Georgia. Here come the family stories...George
> to have been a trader among the Indians and possible married also into a
> he was trading with. We have never been able to locate a wife at this
> point but
> have been able to locate that his son Sampson was invovled in a special
> unit of
> Indian spies. Sampson was b. in 1768 in Anson North Carolina. Here he go
> another family story that is starting to make sense. Have been told that
> Sampson's son Philip also was a trader with the Indians and was close
> enough to
> them to be called to as family. That they spent many of time between each
family. Phillip was also have told the area Chief of a great massacre that
> to take place upon there village. The people were warned in enough time to
> relocate but aways promising to honor and protect the Ren!
> froe na
> Phillip was b.1802 in Ga but later settled in Dale alabama with his wife
> MATTHEWS daughter of Levi MATTHEWS and Martha RENFROE.
> Hoping someone might be able to help me put some of these stories to rest
> well as were to look to locate more on this great line and heritage.
> thank you
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