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Subject: Re: [JOHNSTON-DNA] Johnston family - the Wee Three
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 6:22:37 -0400
Hey Cliff
I think that attack plan would be great but that would be presuming I knew mine came through Canada, the furthest i go back is to my GrtGrtGrt grandfather John M. Johnston who was born in 1832 or there about, in Alabama or maybe South Carolina. I know he got married in Alabama and had children there. But whether the came through Canada from Ireland or Scotland I dont know.
Terry
---- "Cliff. Johnston" <> wrote:
> Terry,
>
> Yes, I saved our previous emails - about the Metis and one Archibald
> Johnston. You had some terrific information for me - very interesting.
>
> Yeah, I know how it goes being layed off. I went through that and waited
> for some 5 or 6 years before submitting my test sample. It'll happen.
>
> What can you tell me about where your Johnston family came to in Canada?
> And when? Perhaps we can attack it from another angle...
>
> Cliff.
> "May the best you've ever seen,
> Be the worst you'll ever see;"
> from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Terry M. Johnston" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 12:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [JOHNSTON-DNA] Johnston family - the Wee Three
>
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Have we exchanged emails before? I am not sure if it is Ireland or
> > Scotland
> > although my pops want to firmly believe Scotland around the Dumfries area.
> > I
> > was laid off 2 months ago and stuggling to find another job, so at the
> > moment the 189$ is a bit out of my budget. Once I am working again I will
> > do
> > it though. I would really like to bust through my wall of John Johnston
> > and
> > find my family further back...
> >
> > thanks
> > Terry
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Cliff. Johnston" <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:49 AM
> > Subject: Re: [JOHNSTON-DNA] Johnston family - the Wee Three
> >
> >
> >> Terry,
> >>
> >> I see that we exchanged emails before.
> >>
> >> Do you know if your Johnston family came over from Ireland or Scotland?
> >>
> >> Do you have an approximate year as to when they arrived in Canada?
> >>
> >> "Clifford" is not a widely used name among Johnston families. I would be
> >> very surprized if we were not connected somewhere in the past
> >>
> >> Cliff.
> >> "May the best you've ever seen,
> >> Be the worst you'll ever see;"
> >> from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Terry M. Johnston" <>
> >> To: <>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 6:16 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [JOHNSTON-DNA] Johnston family - the Wee Three
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hello Cliff
> >>>
> >>> Just wanted to add my two cents, allthough I have no idea if we are
> >>> related.
> >>> My name is Terry Johnston, I am also tall with red hair. 6'7 to be
> >>> exact..
> >>> My father who shares a name with you is 6'5 he is David Clifford
> >>> Johnston,
> >>> and my brother David also with red hair is 6'6. Our grandfather was also
> >>> tall at 6'7 and had red hair, he was George Virgil Johnston and his
> >>> father
> >>> was Floyd Clifford Johnston and his father was George Vinson Johnston
> >>> and
> >>> his father was John Johnston, if you have any info on this line or if it
> >>> is
> >>> connected with your line please let me know, thanks...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Terry M Johnston
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Cliff. Johnston" <>
> >>> To: <>
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 3:13 PM
> >>> Subject: [JOHNSTON-DNA] Johnston family - the Wee Three
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Greetings from Sunny Texas,
> >>>>
> >>>> Y-DNA test results have come back confirming the suspected relationship
> >>>> of
> >>>> 3 Johnston brothers: Francis "Frank" (b. 1805), Robert "Red Robin" (b.
> >>>> 1808) and Archibald "Archie" (b. 1815), all born in Ireland. I call
> >>>> them
> >>>> the "Wee Three" with affection as all were taller than average with my
> >>>> gggrandfather, Red Robin, coming in at 6'-5" (and red hair).
> >>>>
> >>>> According to oral family history their father may have been born in
> >>>> Scotland. We do not know his name. According to old and ancient
> >>>> Johnston/e family genealogy provided by a newfound cousin to whom we
> >>>> were
> >>>> linked by the Y-DNA tests we belong to the Johnstons in Poldean and
> >>>> some
> >>>> of our ancestors were members of the Old Gang of Wamphray (Danish
> >>>> Viking
> >>>> ancestry - Poldean is a 2,000 acre holding which left the family in
> >>>> 1742.
> >>>> It is some 4-5 miles south of Moffatt, Scotland). Our Johnston/e
> >>>> family
> >>>> left Ireland in the mid-1820's. One or more died on the crossing to
> >>>> Upper
> >>>> Canada, possibly including their father. A married sister stayed
> >>>> behind
> >>>> in Ireland with her husband. The 3 surviving brothers settled near
> >>>> what
> >>>> is now Pendleton, Ontario, Canada. They were very close to other
> >>>> families
> >>>> in the Pendleton area, such as Anderson, Wylie and Derby who came from
> >>>> the
> >>>> Magherafeldt area in Co. Derry, and it is suspected that they too may
> >>>> have
> >>>> come from the same locale.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2 of my Dad's aunts visited Ireland to find kin in the 1920's. None
> >>>> were
> >>>> found living. One aunt kept a detailed journal which included the
> >>>> tombstone inscriptions of our kin - they did find where they were
> >>>> buried
> >>>> and visited their graves. Unfortunately today no one knows where the
> >>>> journal is or where in Ireland the sisters visited.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have been told that in Ireland the given name "Francis" was
> >>>> considered
> >>>> to be a Roman Catholic name and as such not in common use among
> >>>> Protestant
> >>>> Johnston/e families. Our ancestors were Presbyterian/Methodist. It is
> >>>> possible that the father of the Wee Three married a Roman Catholic
> >>>> woman.
> >>>> We do not know, but interestingly a couple of other Y-DNA cousins in
> >>>> the
> >>>> States with whom we have not been able to make a paper connection yet
> >>>> also
> >>>> have the name "Francis" used by their Protestant Irish ancestors.
> >>>>
> >>>> If anyone has any information on our Wee Three or recognizes something
> >>>> about them from their research I'd appreciate hearing from you. I've
> >>>> been
> >>>> beating my head against those old Irish bricks for too long (since
> >>>> 1979) -
> >>>> something has to give, and I hope that it isn't me... ;-)
> >>>>
> >>>> Here is a link to some photographs of our ancestors, including my
> >>>> gggrandfather & gggrandmother:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.pbase.com/cjmax/johnston_family_album&page=all
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Cliff. Johnston
> >>>> "May the best you've ever seen,
> >>>> Be the worst you'll ever see;"
> >>>> from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay
> >>>>
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