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From: "Cliff. Johnston" <>
Subject: Re: [JOHNSTON-DNA] Johnston family - the Wee Three
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 10:37:45 -0500
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Well, if it's that interesting - get your Y-DNA tested! You may suddenly
connect with a dozen or so more cousins...

Cliff.
"May the best you've ever seen,
Be the worst you'll ever see;"
from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay
----- Original Message -----
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Cc: "Cliff. Johnston" <>
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 12:29 AM
Subject: Re: [JOHNSTON-DNA] Johnston family - the Wee Three


> Hey,
>
> Thats pretty interesting. they furthest I know back is John Johnston
> married a Phoebe Jane Carlisle. John is my grt grt grt grandfather..
>
> Terry M Johnston
> ---- "Cliff. Johnston" <> wrote:
>> Terry,
>>
>> I just took a look at my Y-DNA cousins. We do have a Virgil and a
>> George.
>> They are a little bit more removed from me than some of the others. We
>> all
>> go back to Herbert Johnston of Nese, Gleneybank & Poldean and his son
>> Symon.
>> Symon was the only productive son that Herbert had (in the early 1500's).
>> The genetic divergence among us "modern" descendants can probably be
>> accounted for in large part by the fact that Symon had 4 productive sons,
>> each of which may have developed his own Y-DNA "signature" line.
>>
>> Cliff. Johnston
>> "May the best you've ever seen,
>> Be the worst you'll ever see;"
>> from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Terry M. Johnston" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 6:16 PM
>> Subject: Re: [JOHNSTON-DNA] Johnston family - the Wee Three
>>
>>
>> > Hello Cliff
>> >
>> > Just wanted to add my two cents, allthough I have no idea if we are
>> > related.
>> > My name is Terry Johnston, I am also tall with red hair. 6'7 to be
>> > exact..
>> > My father who shares a name with you is 6'5 he is David Clifford
>> > Johnston,
>> > and my brother David also with red hair is 6'6. Our grandfather was
>> > also
>> > tall at 6'7 and had red hair, he was George Virgil Johnston and his
>> > father
>> > was Floyd Clifford Johnston and his father was George Vinson Johnston
>> > and
>> > his father was John Johnston, if you have any info on this line or if
>> > it
>> > is
>> > connected with your line please let me know, thanks...
>> >
>> >
>> > Terry M Johnston
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Cliff. Johnston" <>
>> > To: <>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 3:13 PM
>> > Subject: [JOHNSTON-DNA] Johnston family - the Wee Three
>> >
>> >
>> >> Greetings from Sunny Texas,
>> >>
>> >> Y-DNA test results have come back confirming the suspected
>> >> relationship
>> >> of
>> >> 3 Johnston brothers: Francis "Frank" (b. 1805), Robert "Red Robin"
>> >> (b.
>> >> 1808) and Archibald "Archie" (b. 1815), all born in Ireland. I call
>> >> them
>> >> the "Wee Three" with affection as all were taller than average with my
>> >> gggrandfather, Red Robin, coming in at 6'-5" (and red hair).
>> >>
>> >> According to oral family history their father may have been born in
>> >> Scotland. We do not know his name. According to old and ancient
>> >> Johnston/e family genealogy provided by a newfound cousin to whom we
>> >> were
>> >> linked by the Y-DNA tests we belong to the Johnstons in Poldean and
>> >> some
>> >> of our ancestors were members of the Old Gang of Wamphray (Danish
>> >> Viking
>> >> ancestry - Poldean is a 2,000 acre holding which left the family in
>> >> 1742.
>> >> It is some 4-5 miles south of Moffatt, Scotland). Our Johnston/e
>> >> family
>> >> left Ireland in the mid-1820's. One or more died on the crossing to
>> >> Upper
>> >> Canada, possibly including their father. A married sister stayed
>> >> behind
>> >> in Ireland with her husband. The 3 surviving brothers settled near
>> >> what
>> >> is now Pendleton, Ontario, Canada. They were very close to other
>> >> families
>> >> in the Pendleton area, such as Anderson, Wylie and Derby who came from
>> >> the
>> >> Magherafeldt area in Co. Derry, and it is suspected that they too may
>> >> have
>> >> come from the same locale.
>> >>
>> >> 2 of my Dad's aunts visited Ireland to find kin in the 1920's. None
>> >> were
>> >> found living. One aunt kept a detailed journal which included the
>> >> tombstone inscriptions of our kin - they did find where they were
>> >> buried
>> >> and visited their graves. Unfortunately today no one knows where the
>> >> journal is or where in Ireland the sisters visited.
>> >>
>> >> I have been told that in Ireland the given name "Francis" was
>> >> considered
>> >> to be a Roman Catholic name and as such not in common use among
>> >> Protestant
>> >> Johnston/e families. Our ancestors were Presbyterian/Methodist. It
>> >> is
>> >> possible that the father of the Wee Three married a Roman Catholic
>> >> woman.
>> >> We do not know, but interestingly a couple of other Y-DNA cousins in
>> >> the
>> >> States with whom we have not been able to make a paper connection yet
>> >> also
>> >> have the name "Francis" used by their Protestant Irish ancestors.
>> >>
>> >> If anyone has any information on our Wee Three or recognizes something
>> >> about them from their research I'd appreciate hearing from you. I've
>> >> been
>> >> beating my head against those old Irish bricks for too long (since
>> >> 1979) -
>> >> something has to give, and I hope that it isn't me... ;-)
>> >>
>> >> Here is a link to some photographs of our ancestors, including my
>> >> gggrandfather & gggrandmother:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.pbase.com/cjmax/johnston_family_album&page=all
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >>
>> >> Cliff. Johnston
>> >> "May the best you've ever seen,
>> >> Be the worst you'll ever see;"
>> >> from A Scots Toast by Allan Ramsay
>> >>
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