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Subject: Re: [IRISH-IN-CHICAGO] Cavanaghs in Lasalle Co IL
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 20:58:46 -0600
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Yes, they did. I have the certificate numbers from Footnote.com.

Bill

----- Original Message -----
From: patricia meyers <>
Date: Sunday, January 27, 2008 16:25
Subject: Re: [IRISH-IN-CHICAGO] Cavanaghs in Lasalle Co IL
To:

> Bill,
> Did Joseph apply for his pension or his wife? I found a
> marriage date in pension records for a cousin's g'grandfather
> and found the name of the church. The church records
> didn't survive the fire unfortunately, but I have a month and a
> year now for the marriage and an approximate location of their
> home at the time of their marriage.
>
> Patti Meyers
> Westmont, IL
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: "" <>
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 3:52:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [IRISH-IN-CHICAGO] Cavanaghs in Lasalle Co IL
>
> Nan and Susan,
>
> Have you checked the cyberdrive site for civil war veterans? My
> wife's great grandfather, Joseph Heery, came to America in 1849
> at the age of 21 from Kingscourt, County Cavan. When the war
> started, he enlisted at the age of 40. He enlisted in DuQoin in
> the 12th regiment G Company. After the war, he married Mary
> Clark. They settled in Chicago in the Bridgeport area. Records
> of their marriage don't exist because of the fire.
>
> I checked the cyberdrive site and could not locate the record at
> first. They had misspelled his surname. It was spelled Harry.
> The records for 12 G are also difficult to find. Search one way,
> they don't exist, but search another way they do. It's weird.
>
> NARA also has records of the Civil War. Don't give up.
>
> Bill Karr
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Nan Brennan <>
> Date: Saturday, January 26, 2008 22:08
> Subject: [IRISH-IN-CHICAGO] Cavanaghs in Lasalle Co IL
> To:
>
> > Susan,
> > Have you looked at that Christopher Cavanagh?
> > Born Ireland about 1838
> > Married Mary Wynn in LaSalle County Jun 25 1858
> > County Court Records Film # 1710810-1710813
> > He and Mary were in Ottawa/Lasalle in 1860 with one child Mary
> > A.
> > Cavanagh age1
> > They were both age 22 in 1860
> >
> > In 1870 Mary was in Ottawa with her children, Mary A 10;
> Thomas
> > 8
> > andChristoper 4.
> > (Chris was born about 1866?) Her husband Christopher was
> > not there.
> > Did he die? Was he in the civil war?
> >
> > Nan
> >
> > On Jan 26, 2008, at 6:08 PM, wrote:
> >
> > > Nan,
> > >
> > > My ancestor Patrick Cavanagh's brother is believed to have
> > been in
> > > LaSalle County, as the rest of the family was during the
> civil
> > war
> > > years.? I only have a biographical sketch of?Patrick in
> > Livingston
> > > County where they later moved, in which it mentions he had
> > a
> > > brother who went off to the Civil War and was never heard
> > from
> > > again, and that the family always thought he had died in
> > the
> > > Confederate Prison Camp of Libby in Richmond, VA.? I checked
> > out
> > > that resource, but there are no records to check.?
> > Unfortunately, I
> > > don't have his first name which is a bit of a stumbling
> block, also.
> > >
> > > Susan
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Nan Brennan <>
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 5:01 pm
> > > Subject: Re: [IRISH-IN-CHICAGO] Irish Bridgade - and - 89th
> > IL
> > > "RailroadRegiment"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Susan,
> > >
> > > Do you know where your Patrick's brother was living in
> > Illinois when
> > > he enlisted?
> > >
> > > Nan
> > >
> > > On Jan 26, 2008, at 1:38 PM, wrote:
> > >
> > >> Just for the purpose of general information, I learned from a
> > >> gentleman/scholar at the Library of Congress, that many
> > people are
> > >> disappointed in finding "deserter" on the mustering out
> > rolls.? He
> > >> said that in almost all cases, it was simply that the men/boys
> > >> didn't want to wait around for the red tape in getting the paper
> > >> work finalized and simply wanted to get home to home and hearth.
> > >>
> > >> Susan
> > >>
> > >> p.s.? I have a K/Cavanagh who went off to the Civil War in
> > >> Illinois, and was never heard from again.
> > >> He was brother of my gg-grandfather, Patrick Cavangh (any
> > >> spelling).? Unfortunately, I don't have his first name.? I also
> > >> have never found any information about the
> "missings"..........just> >> pension rolls or mustering out
> info, which don't apply.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Sharon Kavanagh <>
> > >> To:
> > >> Sent: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 2:11 pm
> > >> Subject: Re: [IRISH-IN-CHICAGO] Irish Bridgade - and - 89th IL
> > >> "RailroadRegiment"
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Nan - just curious - did you find Dan's - Frank Curran in
> the
> > IL 23
> > >> or IL 89
> > >> in the NPS S&S System?
> > >>
> > >> Also, we Kavanaghs, of course, are not able to be certain
> > that the
> > >> James
> > >> Kavanagh in the 23 IL is "ours," however NARA Civil War Pension
> > >> records
> > >> exist for him and his widow having received Civil War
> Pension until
> > >> 1923.
> > >>
> > >> Sharon
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Nan Brennan" <>
> > >> To: <>
> > >> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 10:09 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: [IRISH-IN-CHICAGO] Irish Bridgade - and - 89th IL
> > >> "RailroadRegiment"
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Thanks much for that info, Sharon.
> > >>> I did find the NPS site and the entry for Dan's, Frank Curran.
> > >>> There's no detail yet, but gives a film number.
> > >>> Apparently they will add those records later.
> > >>> I'm not a Civil War researcher at all, but I think there
> are NARA
> > >>> records on the CW (online).
> > >>>
> > >>> Nan
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Jan 26, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Sharon Kavanagh wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hello Dan, Nan and other listers,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> It sounds like you have done a thorough search of Civil War
> > >>>> Rosters, but
> > >>>> when I read about your 23 IL Company B ancestor, I had to
> > tell you
> > >>>> this.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> We had been informed (by Ill.State Archives) that James
> Kavanagh> >>>> served in
> > >>>> the 89th IL Infantry and they sent a copy of his
> mustering out
> > >>>> papers.
> > >>>> However, we never could find him in the 89 IL rosters.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I am not a Civil War scholar. However, in doing some
> > reading I
> > >>>> discovered
> > >>>> that 89 IL and 23 IL have a complicated (couple of?)
> > consolidation>>>> (s) and
> > >>>> share the same rosters for several Companies.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> We found James Kavanagh in the National Park Service
> Civil War
> > >>>> Soldiers &
> > >>>> Sailors System in the 23 IL "Irish" Infantry after having
> > searched>>>> rosters
> > >>>> unsuccessfully for him in the 89 IL "Railroad" Infantry.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> You can Google the NPS website, but I will also send it
> to you
> > >>>> offlist since
> > >>>> Rootsweb does not allow us to send URLs. Also I
> will
> > forward a
> > >>>> link to a
> > >>>> Rootsweb ILCivil War history resource.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Good Luck, Dan.
> > >>>> Sharon Kavanagh
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>> From: "dan hogan" <>
> > >>>> To: <>
> > >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 8:18 AM
> > >>>> Subject: Re: [IRISH-IN-CHICAGO] Irish Bridgade
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> I have an ancestor who was supposedly in the Chicago
> > >>>>> Irish Brigade. He was one Frank Curran, 23 IL
> > >>>>> Infantry, Company B. He was killed in action at the
> > >>>>> Battle of Lexington, MO also called the Battle of the
> > >>>>> Hemp Bales. Nan has previously helped me with rosters
> > >>>>> but he does not appear there, though I have his
> > >>>>> enlistment record. Does a Frank Curran appear in any
> > >>>>> of these news articles?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Dan Hogan
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --- Nan Brennan <> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Bill,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> That's terrific that you were able to obtain those
> > >>>>>> citations from John.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I'm assuming they may not have included the Chicago
> > >>>>>> Tribune?
> > >>>>>> There are 100s of articles in the Chicago Tribune on
> > >>>>>> related subjects.
> > >>>>>> 300 articles on the Irish Brigade just in the years
> > >>>>>> 1861 and 1862.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Here's an example of some from a later
> > >>>>>> period---during the Boer War
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Chicago Tribune, Aug 24, 1902 page 16
> > >>>>>> Picnic For Ambulance Corps
> > >>>>>> Irish-Americans to have an outing at Oswald's Grove
> > >>>>>> to Raise Money
> > >>>>>> For Chicagoans in Africa. (very long article)
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> The corp in this article is called the
> > >>>>>> "Irish-American-Boer Ambulance
> > >>>>>> Association of Chicago"
> > >>>>>> Capt John J Quinn was president. Some of the names
> > >>>>>> mentioned (of
> > >>>>>> soldiers waiting to be
> > >>>>>> brought home from Johannesburg): James Jeffries,
> > >>>>>> Michael Halley,
> > >>>>>> Jerry O'Leary,
> > >>>>>> Peter O'Hara, George Wilson, Earnest Criss, Louis
> > >>>>>> Rupprecht, Joseph
> > >>>>>> Wade, James French,
> > >>>>>> Joseph Kennedy, John McGlew.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Chicago Tribune Feb 11, 1900 page 13
> > >>>>>> IRISH CORPS OFF TODAY
> > >>>>>> HOSPITAL FORCE FOR BOER ARMY TO START AT 10AM
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Chicago Tribune Nov 17, 1900 page 1 (continues on
> > >>>>>> several pages)
> > >>>>>> IRISH VALOR IN TRANSVAAL WAR
> > >>>>>> CHicago Ambulance Corp Tell of Their Five Months'
> > >>>>>> Campaign in Africa
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Very long article about their return to New York.
> > >>>>>> Many stories of
> > >>>>>> numerous battles, etc.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Some Chicago members listed in this article:
> > >>>>>> John Duff, Daniel McHugh, John Costello, Patrick
> > >>>>>> Carroll (341 W
> > >>>>>> Adams), John Quinn (124 E Ohio), James Coyne,
> > >>>>>> (Daniel McHugh was captured), John Walsh (317
> > >>>>>> Jackson) Dr AF Conroy
> > >>>>>> (captured), Dr J.R. McNamara, Dr Jeremiah Slattery,
> > >>>>>> Dr H.H. McAuley, Dr Ross, T. Long.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Casualties of the Corp mentioned: Edward Eagan of
> > >>>>>> Chicago, killed at
> > >>>>>> Thaba 'nchu
> > >>>>>> MICHAEL O'HARA of Holyoke Mass, killed at
> > >>>>>> Watervalonder; John J
> > >>>>>> Reilly of Chicago, wounded
> > >>>>>> at Thaba'Nchu and sent to St Helena. Prisoners:
> > >>>>>> Michael Hearn and
> > >>>>>> John Dougherty of Holyoke
> > >>>>>> Mass and Joseph Hill of Chicago....all sent to
> > >>>>>> Ceylon.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Others from Chicago: Thomas Naughton, Richard
> > >>>>>> Cahill, Fred Verslius,
> > >>>>>> Rudolph Linsehoter
> > >>>>>> Daniel m. Daly, Captain Patrick O'Connor, Hubert
> > >>>>>> O'Hara (863 Girard
> > >>>>>> St), William Hurley (1148 47thPL)
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Have you already read alot of the Tribune stories?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Nan
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Jan 25, 2008, at 1:51 PM, Bill King wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I was very interested in the Clan na Gael
> > >>>>>> "ambulance corps" from
> > >>>>>>> Chicago that went to the Boer War. My great uncle
> > >>>>>> was in the
> > >>>>>>> "ambulance corps". John has since sent me
> > >>>>>> citations of Chicago
> > >>>>>>> newspapers articles that report on the organizing
> > >>>>>> and the actions
> > >>>>>>> of the "ambulance corps". This is a great help to
> > >>>>>> me as I work on
> > >>>>>>> my family history. Bill King
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>>>>>> From: Nan Brennan <>
> > >>>>>>>> Sent: Jan 24, 2008 10:56 PM
> > >>>>>>>> To:
> > >>>>>>>> Subject: [IRISH-IN-CHICAGO] Q & A More feedback
> > >>>>>> on John Corrigan.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I know many of you engaged directly with John and
> > >>>>>> some had specific
> > >>>>>>>> questions for him. Could you share this onlist,
> > >>>>>> for all of us, but
> > >>>>>>>> especially
> > >>>>>>>> for those who were unable to attend?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Annette, did you get the information you were
> > >>>>>> interested in on
> > >>>>>>>> priests?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Also, I had to leave the table twice. So I
> > >>>>>> missed some things, too.
> > >>>>>>>> Did anyone ask John about his website, his
> > >>>>>> database-----the how
> > >>>>>>>> and when
> > >>>>>>>> of it's availability?
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Thanks for sharing your information with all of
> > >>>>>> us.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Nan
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Dan Hogan
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
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