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From: "Sharon Kavanagh" <>
Subject: [IRISH-IN-CHICAGO] Fw: Irish Bridgade - and - 89thIL"RailroadRegiment"
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 15:08:26 -0800


Whoops - mistake - make that the itd.nps.gov (instead of ind)


----- Original Message -----
From: "Sharon Kavanagh" <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: [IRISH-IN-CHICAGO] Irish Bridgade - and - 89th
IL"RailroadRegiment"


> Nan-
> I was looking at James Kavanagh, 23 Illinois Infantry, Company B, Private
> (rank) and Film Number M539 roll 47 on the ind.nps.gov site.
> Sharon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nan Brennan" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 2:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [IRISH-IN-CHICAGO] Irish Bridgade - and - 89th
> IL"RailroadRegiment"
>
>
>> Sharon,
>>
>> His record (if I have the right James Cavanagh ) died with Il 23 on
>> 18 Feb 1862.
>> I think they were guarding Confederate Soldiers at Fort Douglas at
>> that time.
>>
>> Nan
>>
>> On Jan 26, 2008, at 1:11 PM, Sharon Kavanagh wrote:
>>
>>> Nan - just curious - did you find Dan's - Frank Curran in the IL 23
>>> or IL 89
>>> in the NPS S&S System?
>>>
>>> Also, we Kavanaghs, of course, are not able to be certain that the
>>> James
>>> Kavanagh in the 23 IL is "ours," however NARA Civil War Pension
>>> records
>>> exist for him and his widow having received Civil War Pension until
>>> 1923.
>>>
>>> Sharon
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Nan Brennan" <>
>>> To: <>
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 10:09 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [IRISH-IN-CHICAGO] Irish Bridgade - and - 89th IL
>>> "RailroadRegiment"
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thanks much for that info, Sharon.
>>>> I did find the NPS site and the entry for Dan's, Frank Curran.
>>>> There's no detail yet, but gives a film number.
>>>> Apparently they will add those records later.
>>>> I'm not a Civil War researcher at all, but I think there are NARA
>>>> records on the CW (online).
>>>>
>>>> Nan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 26, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Sharon Kavanagh wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Dan, Nan and other listers,
>>>>>
>>>>> It sounds like you have done a thorough search of Civil War
>>>>> Rosters, but
>>>>> when I read about your 23 IL Company B ancestor, I had to tell you
>>>>> this.
>>>>>
>>>>> We had been informed (by Ill.State Archives) that James Kavanagh
>>>>> served in
>>>>> the 89th IL Infantry and they sent a copy of his mustering out
>>>>> papers.
>>>>> However, we never could find him in the 89 IL rosters.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am not a Civil War scholar. However, in doing some reading I
>>>>> discovered
>>>>> that 89 IL and 23 IL have a complicated (couple of?) consolidation
>>>>> (s) and
>>>>> share the same rosters for several Companies.
>>>>>
>>>>> We found James Kavanagh in the National Park Service Civil War
>>>>> Soldiers &
>>>>> Sailors System in the 23 IL "Irish" Infantry after having searched
>>>>> rosters
>>>>> unsuccessfully for him in the 89 IL "Railroad" Infantry.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can Google the NPS website, but I will also send it to you
>>>>> offlist since
>>>>> Rootsweb does not allow us to send URLs. Also I will forward a
>>>>> link to a
>>>>> Rootsweb ILCivil War history resource.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good Luck, Dan.
>>>>> Sharon Kavanagh
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "dan hogan" <>
>>>>> To: <>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 8:18 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [IRISH-IN-CHICAGO] Irish Bridgade
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have an ancestor who was supposedly in the Chicago
>>>>>> Irish Brigade. He was one Frank Curran, 23 IL
>>>>>> Infantry, Company B. He was killed in action at the
>>>>>> Battle of Lexington, MO also called the Battle of the
>>>>>> Hemp Bales. Nan has previously helped me with rosters
>>>>>> but he does not appear there, though I have his
>>>>>> enlistment record. Does a Frank Curran appear in any
>>>>>> of these news articles?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dan Hogan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- Nan Brennan <> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's terrific that you were able to obtain those
>>>>>>> citations from John.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm assuming they may not have included the Chicago
>>>>>>> Tribune?
>>>>>>> There are 100s of articles in the Chicago Tribune on
>>>>>>> related subjects.
>>>>>>> 300 articles on the Irish Brigade just in the years
>>>>>>> 1861 and 1862.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here's an example of some from a later
>>>>>>> period---during the Boer War
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chicago Tribune, Aug 24, 1902 page 16
>>>>>>> Picnic For Ambulance Corps
>>>>>>> Irish-Americans to have an outing at Oswald's Grove
>>>>>>> to Raise Money
>>>>>>> For Chicagoans in Africa. (very long article)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The corp in this article is called the
>>>>>>> "Irish-American-Boer Ambulance
>>>>>>> Association of Chicago"
>>>>>>> Capt John J Quinn was president. Some of the names
>>>>>>> mentioned (of
>>>>>>> soldiers waiting to be
>>>>>>> brought home from Johannesburg): James Jeffries,
>>>>>>> Michael Halley,
>>>>>>> Jerry O'Leary,
>>>>>>> Peter O'Hara, George Wilson, Earnest Criss, Louis
>>>>>>> Rupprecht, Joseph
>>>>>>> Wade, James French,
>>>>>>> Joseph Kennedy, John McGlew.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chicago Tribune Feb 11, 1900 page 13
>>>>>>> IRISH CORPS OFF TODAY
>>>>>>> HOSPITAL FORCE FOR BOER ARMY TO START AT 10AM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chicago Tribune Nov 17, 1900 page 1 (continues on
>>>>>>> several pages)
>>>>>>> IRISH VALOR IN TRANSVAAL WAR
>>>>>>> CHicago Ambulance Corp Tell of Their Five Months'
>>>>>>> Campaign in Africa
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Very long article about their return to New York.
>>>>>>> Many stories of
>>>>>>> numerous battles, etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some Chicago members listed in this article:
>>>>>>> John Duff, Daniel McHugh, John Costello, Patrick
>>>>>>> Carroll (341 W
>>>>>>> Adams), John Quinn (124 E Ohio), James Coyne,
>>>>>>> (Daniel McHugh was captured), John Walsh (317
>>>>>>> Jackson) Dr AF Conroy
>>>>>>> (captured), Dr J.R. McNamara, Dr Jeremiah Slattery,
>>>>>>> Dr H.H. McAuley, Dr Ross, T. Long.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Casualties of the Corp mentioned: Edward Eagan of
>>>>>>> Chicago, killed at
>>>>>>> Thaba 'nchu
>>>>>>> MICHAEL O'HARA of Holyoke Mass, killed at
>>>>>>> Watervalonder; John J
>>>>>>> Reilly of Chicago, wounded
>>>>>>> at Thaba'Nchu and sent to St Helena. Prisoners:
>>>>>>> Michael Hearn and
>>>>>>> John Dougherty of Holyoke
>>>>>>> Mass and Joseph Hill of Chicago....all sent to
>>>>>>> Ceylon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Others from Chicago: Thomas Naughton, Richard
>>>>>>> Cahill, Fred Verslius,
>>>>>>> Rudolph Linsehoter
>>>>>>> Daniel m. Daly, Captain Patrick O'Connor, Hubert
>>>>>>> O'Hara (863 Girard
>>>>>>> St), William Hurley (1148 47thPL)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have you already read alot of the Tribune stories?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 25, 2008, at 1:51 PM, Bill King wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was very interested in the Clan na Gael
>>>>>>> "ambulance corps" from
>>>>>>>> Chicago that went to the Boer War. My great uncle
>>>>>>> was in the
>>>>>>>> "ambulance corps". John has since sent me
>>>>>>> citations of Chicago
>>>>>>>> newspapers articles that report on the organizing
>>>>>>> and the actions
>>>>>>>> of the "ambulance corps". This is a great help to
>>>>>>> me as I work on
>>>>>>>> my family history. Bill King
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Nan Brennan <>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Jan 24, 2008 10:56 PM
>>>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [IRISH-IN-CHICAGO] Q & A More feedback
>>>>>>> on John Corrigan.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I know many of you engaged directly with John and
>>>>>>> some had specific
>>>>>>>>> questions for him. Could you share this onlist,
>>>>>>> for all of us, but
>>>>>>>>> especially
>>>>>>>>> for those who were unable to attend?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Annette, did you get the information you were
>>>>>>> interested in on
>>>>>>>>> priests?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, I had to leave the table twice. So I
>>>>>>> missed some things, too.
>>>>>>>>> Did anyone ask John about his website, his
>>>>>>> database-----the how
>>>>>>>>> and when
>>>>>>>>> of it's availability?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for sharing your information with all of
>>>>>>> us.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Nan
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dan Hogan
>>>>>>
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