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From: Nan Brennan <>
Subject: Re: [IRISH-IN-CHICAGO] Irish Bridgade - and - 89th IL"RailroadRegiment"
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 16:01:08 -0600
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Susan,

Do you know where your Patrick's brother was living in Illinois when
he enlisted?

Nan

On Jan 26, 2008, at 1:38 PM, wrote:

> Just for the purpose of general information, I learned from a
> gentleman/scholar at the Library of Congress, that many people are
> disappointed in finding "deserter" on the mustering out rolls.? He
> said that in almost all cases, it was simply that the men/boys
> didn't want to wait around for the red tape in getting the paper
> work finalized and simply wanted to get home to home and hearth.
>
> Susan
>
> p.s.? I have a K/Cavanagh who went off to the Civil War in
> Illinois, and was never heard from again.
> He was brother of my gg-grandfather, Patrick Cavangh (any
> spelling).? Unfortunately, I don't have his first name.? I also
> have never found any information about the "missings"..........just
> pension rolls or mustering out info, which don't apply.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sharon Kavanagh <>
> To:
> Sent: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 2:11 pm
> Subject: Re: [IRISH-IN-CHICAGO] Irish Bridgade - and - 89th IL
> "RailroadRegiment"
>
>
>
> Nan - just curious - did you find Dan's - Frank Curran in the IL 23
> or IL 89
> in the NPS S&S System?
>
> Also, we Kavanaghs, of course, are not able to be certain that the
> James
> Kavanagh in the 23 IL is "ours," however NARA Civil War Pension
> records
> exist for him and his widow having received Civil War Pension until
> 1923.
>
> Sharon
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nan Brennan" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 10:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [IRISH-IN-CHICAGO] Irish Bridgade - and - 89th IL
> "RailroadRegiment"
>
>
>> Thanks much for that info, Sharon.
>> I did find the NPS site and the entry for Dan's, Frank Curran.
>> There's no detail yet, but gives a film number.
>> Apparently they will add those records later.
>> I'm not a Civil War researcher at all, but I think there are NARA
>> records on the CW (online).
>>
>> Nan
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 26, 2008, at 11:39 AM, Sharon Kavanagh wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Dan, Nan and other listers,
>>>
>>> It sounds like you have done a thorough search of Civil War
>>> Rosters, but
>>> when I read about your 23 IL Company B ancestor, I had to tell you
>>> this.
>>>
>>> We had been informed (by Ill.State Archives) that James Kavanagh
>>> served in
>>> the 89th IL Infantry and they sent a copy of his mustering out
>>> papers.
>>> However, we never could find him in the 89 IL rosters.
>>>
>>> I am not a Civil War scholar. However, in doing some reading I
>>> discovered
>>> that 89 IL and 23 IL have a complicated (couple of?) consolidation
>>> (s) and
>>> share the same rosters for several Companies.
>>>
>>> We found James Kavanagh in the National Park Service Civil War
>>> Soldiers &
>>> Sailors System in the 23 IL "Irish" Infantry after having searched
>>> rosters
>>> unsuccessfully for him in the 89 IL "Railroad" Infantry.
>>>
>>> You can Google the NPS website, but I will also send it to you
>>> offlist since
>>> Rootsweb does not allow us to send URLs. Also I will forward a
>>> link to a
>>> Rootsweb ILCivil War history resource.
>>>
>>> Good Luck, Dan.
>>> Sharon Kavanagh
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "dan hogan" <>
>>> To: <>
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 8:18 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [IRISH-IN-CHICAGO] Irish Bridgade
>>>
>>>
>>>> I have an ancestor who was supposedly in the Chicago
>>>> Irish Brigade. He was one Frank Curran, 23 IL
>>>> Infantry, Company B. He was killed in action at the
>>>> Battle of Lexington, MO also called the Battle of the
>>>> Hemp Bales. Nan has previously helped me with rosters
>>>> but he does not appear there, though I have his
>>>> enlistment record. Does a Frank Curran appear in any
>>>> of these news articles?
>>>>
>>>> Dan Hogan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- Nan Brennan <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Bill,
>>>>>
>>>>> That's terrific that you were able to obtain those
>>>>> citations from John.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm assuming they may not have included the Chicago
>>>>> Tribune?
>>>>> There are 100s of articles in the Chicago Tribune on
>>>>> related subjects.
>>>>> 300 articles on the Irish Brigade just in the years
>>>>> 1861 and 1862.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's an example of some from a later
>>>>> period---during the Boer War
>>>>>
>>>>> Chicago Tribune, Aug 24, 1902 page 16
>>>>> Picnic For Ambulance Corps
>>>>> Irish-Americans to have an outing at Oswald's Grove
>>>>> to Raise Money
>>>>> For Chicagoans in Africa. (very long article)
>>>>>
>>>>> The corp in this article is called the
>>>>> "Irish-American-Boer Ambulance
>>>>> Association of Chicago"
>>>>> Capt John J Quinn was president. Some of the names
>>>>> mentioned (of
>>>>> soldiers waiting to be
>>>>> brought home from Johannesburg): James Jeffries,
>>>>> Michael Halley,
>>>>> Jerry O'Leary,
>>>>> Peter O'Hara, George Wilson, Earnest Criss, Louis
>>>>> Rupprecht, Joseph
>>>>> Wade, James French,
>>>>> Joseph Kennedy, John McGlew.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chicago Tribune Feb 11, 1900 page 13
>>>>> IRISH CORPS OFF TODAY
>>>>> HOSPITAL FORCE FOR BOER ARMY TO START AT 10AM
>>>>>
>>>>> Chicago Tribune Nov 17, 1900 page 1 (continues on
>>>>> several pages)
>>>>> IRISH VALOR IN TRANSVAAL WAR
>>>>> CHicago Ambulance Corp Tell of Their Five Months'
>>>>> Campaign in Africa
>>>>>
>>>>> Very long article about their return to New York.
>>>>> Many stories of
>>>>> numerous battles, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some Chicago members listed in this article:
>>>>> John Duff, Daniel McHugh, John Costello, Patrick
>>>>> Carroll (341 W
>>>>> Adams), John Quinn (124 E Ohio), James Coyne,
>>>>> (Daniel McHugh was captured), John Walsh (317
>>>>> Jackson) Dr AF Conroy
>>>>> (captured), Dr J.R. McNamara, Dr Jeremiah Slattery,
>>>>> Dr H.H. McAuley, Dr Ross, T. Long.
>>>>>
>>>>> Casualties of the Corp mentioned: Edward Eagan of
>>>>> Chicago, killed at
>>>>> Thaba 'nchu
>>>>> MICHAEL O'HARA of Holyoke Mass, killed at
>>>>> Watervalonder; John J
>>>>> Reilly of Chicago, wounded
>>>>> at Thaba'Nchu and sent to St Helena. Prisoners:
>>>>> Michael Hearn and
>>>>> John Dougherty of Holyoke
>>>>> Mass and Joseph Hill of Chicago....all sent to
>>>>> Ceylon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Others from Chicago: Thomas Naughton, Richard
>>>>> Cahill, Fred Verslius,
>>>>> Rudolph Linsehoter
>>>>> Daniel m. Daly, Captain Patrick O'Connor, Hubert
>>>>> O'Hara (863 Girard
>>>>> St), William Hurley (1148 47thPL)
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you already read alot of the Tribune stories?
>>>>>
>>>>> Nan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 25, 2008, at 1:51 PM, Bill King wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I was very interested in the Clan na Gael
>>>>> "ambulance corps" from
>>>>>> Chicago that went to the Boer War. My great uncle
>>>>> was in the
>>>>>> "ambulance corps". John has since sent me
>>>>> citations of Chicago
>>>>>> newspapers articles that report on the organizing
>>>>> and the actions
>>>>>> of the "ambulance corps". This is a great help to
>>>>> me as I work on
>>>>>> my family history. Bill King
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Nan Brennan <>
>>>>>>> Sent: Jan 24, 2008 10:56 PM
>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>> Subject: [IRISH-IN-CHICAGO] Q & A More feedback
>>>>> on John Corrigan.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know many of you engaged directly with John and
>>>>> some had specific
>>>>>>> questions for him. Could you share this onlist,
>>>>> for all of us, but
>>>>>>> especially
>>>>>>> for those who were unable to attend?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Annette, did you get the information you were
>>>>> interested in on
>>>>>>> priests?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, I had to leave the table twice. So I
>>>>> missed some things, too.
>>>>>>> Did anyone ask John about his website, his
>>>>> database-----the how
>>>>>>> and when
>>>>>>> of it's availability?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for sharing your information with all of
>>>>> us.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nan
>>>>
>>>> Dan Hogan
>>>>
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