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From: amdo <>
Subject: Re: [IRISH-IN-CHICAGO] Comments on Nativity Church records
Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:12:29 -0600
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I hope you have great luck like I did. I think you will enjoy seeing the original records.

I have just one note of caution when using the church records. Some of the churches, like Nativity and St. Rose of Lima, re-copied by hand some of their original records, which can lead to errors in transcription. The original copy is usually identifiable by the appearance of disintegrating pages and a line drawn through the page. Luckily, the Latter Day Saints copied both sets. It may not be obvious at first that two copies exist unless you review the entire microfilm. Whenever you do find two sets of records, be sure to compare both pages, and perhaps even copy, both pages for future reference.

In my case, I did find a few errors and omissions between the original and the recopied records. For example, sometimes the original record listed the child's full name, but on the re-copied record, the transcriber sometimes used middle initials instead of writing out the entire middle name. Also, I discovered a few of the first names of sponsors were transcribed incorrectly on the re-copied records.

I personally have found the sponsors to be quite important in my own research. When I hit a dead-end on one g-grandfather, I began to research his children's baptism sponsors and his marriage witnesses. Not only was I able to connect him to other relatives this way, I was also able to trace him and his family back to his town of origin in Ireland. I'm hoping to do the same with a few other dead-ends I have hit.

So again, Cathy, good luck on your research. You may find some relatives you previously didn't know about.


> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 12:04:54 -0400> From: > To: > Subject: Re: [IRISH-IN-CHICAGO] Comments on Nativity Church records> > Annette, > > Thank you so much for the information. I have a Family History Center nearby> and I will order the microfilm.> > Cathy> > > On 10/26/07 10:43 PM, "A Oehler" <> wrote:> > > > > Catherine,> > > > If possible, I strongly recommend ordering and reviewing the Nativity church> > (or any other available church) microfilms at your nearest Family History> > Center. Several years ago, my cousin obtained 12 baptism certificates (of 14> > children in the family) from Nativity Church and sent me copies.> > > > Since then, I have reviewed the original records on microfilm, and found> > numerous errors on the transcribed certificates, including the wrong sponsors,> > inaccurate birth dates and baptism dates, and information and dates that were> > left off the certificates altogether. Since the original information often> > extended across two pages, depending on the style of book used that year, the> > modern transcriber often recorded on the certificates the sponsors and dates> > from the lines above or below my family members' lines, instead of taking care> > to be more accurate. And on top of it all, the certificates we received were> > written kind of sloppy, too.> > > > Besides the benefit of gaining more accurate records when doing the search> > yourself, you may also find more children and even extended family members.> > You can also obtain photo copies of the entire record page at the family> > history center. I actually prefer the original record to the certificate, for> > all the above reasons.> > > > Here is what is available in microfilm:> > > > Baptism records 1871-1916> > Marriage records 1871-1915> > Confirmation records 1909-1916> > First Communion records 1915> > > > I hope this helps. Annette> > _________________________________________________________________> > Peek-a-boo FREE Tricks & Treats for You!> >>; > > > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to> > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the> > quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > -- > > Go Cats!> > > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
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