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From: Nan Brennan <>
Subject: Re: [IRISH-IN-CHICAGO] Help with McDowell's?
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 03:05:06 -0500
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I couldn't find any obits in the Tribune on anyone in this family.

Regarding Robert Sr, did you try to track down a death cert in
Sullivan Co NY?
Did you get the death cert on Ada?

Someone has a Knock Family Tree with a Neil McDowell, father William
That person's email is

A 1953 local paper in Chicago (The Daily Herald) had a snippet: "Mrs
Neil McDowell of Los Angeles was guest of honor
at a luncheon given Saturday by the Cosbys.


On May 21, 2007, at 4:43 PM, wrote:

> Hi,
> Someone suggested I join your list and warned me in advance :-)
> that you are a great group of folks! So here goes with my McDowell
> saga.
> Robert McDowell married Eliza Byrne (?? Bkyn??) Robert came to
> the US in 1841. He was born in 1812 in Clonbroney, 3 miles from
> Edgeworthstown. He has an account at the Emigrant Savings Bank.
> His brother, Charles, b. 1816 co-signs his brother's account in the
> 1860s.
> Their Children:
> 1852 Son is born in Brooklyn, Robert McDowell I call him
> Robert Jr.
> 1853/4 Daughter is born in Michigan. (Eliza) I call her
> Eliza Jr. (Why was she born in MI?)
> 1859 Daughter Ellen is born in Brooklyn, NY This is my
> Great-grandmother
> 1880 Census shows Eliza, Eliza Jr, Ellen and her husband James
> Reilly/Riley and children living in Mamakating, NY.
> 1886 Robert Jr married Sarah Ann "Sadie" Freeman (b. VA 1865) in
> Denver, CO
> They have two children. Both born in Denver, CO. Robt is
> Secretary Auditor of the CO-Eastern RR till it closes in 1914.
> Ada V. born in 1890 who never marries
> William Freeman b. in Jun 1893 who marries Gladys Zimmerman (from
> NY) in 1915 or so.
> They have a son, Neil, in 1916. Born in IL.
> 1917 I have William's WW I Registration card showing he is in
> Chicago working for Quaker Oats. Married, child.
> 1920 William and his family are living in Topeka, Ohio and he's
> working in the cereal business.
> Ada is living in a rooming house with what I've concluded is her
> mother. Ada's a stenographer. The mother's info is garbled. Male
> name but checked female box. States of birth for parents and self
> are correct. She's listed as married.
> No mention of Robert.
> 1930
> Sadie, Ada, Robert, Gladys and Neil are living in the same house in
> Chicago.
> 1939 William's wife, Gladys, dies from pneumonia. She's cremated
> and in the storage shed of Oakwoods Cemetery.
> 1942 There's a WW II document showing Neil McDowell b. in 1916
> married. He's purchasing agent. I think this may be Neil, the
> son. I can't find any record of Neil past this point.
> 1950 Sadie dies and is cremated. Her cremains are in the storage
> shed at Oakwoods Cemetery along with Gladys'. (The fellow at the
> cemetery was a little surprised to find that.)
> 1972 William dies. Will?
> 1981 Ada dies in Chicago. Will?
> My dilemma:
> What happened to Robert Sr? Can't find a death record in CO.
> Haven't come up with one in Denver. Is Sadie really a widow in
> 1920 in Chicago and the census taker wrote down married instead?
> Did Robert Jr. remarry after Gladys' death in 1939? If so, who is
> the new family and where are they?
> Where did Robert Jr die and where is he buried?
> Neil. I can't find Neil anywhere. He's not listed as a casualty
> of WW II. So far no info on spouse/children. I'm hoping he had
> children that I might be able to contact. Not in the SSDI.
> Someone suggested his name might have been Cornelius but can't find
> any evidence of that. Just can't find a Neil anywhere.
> When Ada died was there a relative that took custody of her
> possessions? Where is she buried?
> The only other piece of information I know is that the family was
> Methodist. Perhaps there's a Methodist Church in Chicago that they
> attended?
> Thanks for any assistance/advice. Still hunting my McDowell's from
> Longford, IRE.
> :-) Barbara Curtis
> Edmonds, WA
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