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From: Nan Brennan <>
Subject: Re: [IRISH-IN-CHICAGO] Murray and Tracey
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:12:29 -0500
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How embarassing........not very good math on my part!
Your Delia would have been close to 100 in 1942.
Sorry.


On Oct 27, 2006, at 7:09 AM, Nan Brennan wrote:

> This is interesting.....
>
> The Illinois Death Index has a death entry for a "Delia" Murray in
> Norwood on 8/4/1942 age 64.
> I'm thinking this is the same person named Bridget Murray age 50
> (abt) who was at the Infirmary in Norwood in the 1930 census.
> What do you think?
>
>
> On Oct 27, 2006, at 7:03 AM, Nan Brennan wrote:
>
>> Kathleen:
>>
>> There was a Bridget Murphy age 50 "single" birth date unknown,
>> born Ireland at the Cook County Infirmary in Norwood Park in 1900.
>> I wonder how they knew her age if her birth date was unknown, so
>> many they didn't really know if she was single, married or widowed
>> either.
>> Did you get their (Delia and Patrick) marriage license from the
>> State of Illinois?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 27, 2006, at 6:34 AM, Nan Brennan wrote:
>>
>>> There was a Delia Tracey that arrived in NY on May 9, 1863.
>>> She was 21, born abt 1842.
>>> Ship name McCellan.
>>> Port of Departure: England
>>> Place of Origin is "Great Britain".
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 26, 2006, at 12:49 PM, Kathleen M. Klimek wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am looking for possible info on a Murray family and a Tracey
>>>> family (or individuals).
>>>>
>>>> My ggg-grandfather Patrick James Murray b. 1846 (or 47) Ireland
>>>> and ggg-grandmother Delia Tracey (born 1847-48) Ireland are both
>>>> listed in the 1870 fed census as living in the third ward
>>>> Chicago. He was listed as laborer, she as domestic servant. I
>>>> think they were both came to the US after 1860 since I cannot
>>>> locate them (at least in IL) on the 1860 census but they are on
>>>> the 1870 census.
>>>>
>>>> Marriage records state the couple were married Nov. 23, 1872.
>>>> Holy Family parish I believe. So both were around and in that
>>>> neighborhood during the Chicago fire era.
>>>>
>>>> Complicating research is that there is another Patrick Murray
>>>> born in the same year but a different family in a different ward.
>>>>
>>>> Later both are listed in the 1880 census, 7th ward, ED 72,.
>>>> Delia is now listed as Bridget Murray. As is the custom as Delia
>>>> is a nickname for Bridget (or vice versa?).
>>>> In the 1880 census the household is:
>>>> Patrick - age 34
>>>> Bridget – age 32
>>>> Daniel – age 5
>>>> James – age 2
>>>> Mary – age 1
>>>>
>>>> And a relative (brother?) of Delia / Bridget:
>>>> John Tracy (Tracey?) age 42
>>>>
>>>> In the 1900 Census they are listed in West town 9th ward, ED 226
>>>> Daniel Murray – B. 1877
>>>> James – b. 1880
>>>> Mary – b. 1882
>>>> Kittie (Catherine) – b. 1883
>>>> William – b. 1884
>>>> Thomas – b. 1886
>>>>
>>>> I don’t know if Delia/Bridget Murray and Patrick Murray passed
>>>> away by the 1900 census since the children are living alone?
>>>> Since their names are so common I have been unable to locate
>>>> correct death information.
>>>>
>>>> I have genealogy on all the descendants of these Murray
>>>> children: Daniel Joseph (my gg-grandfather), James John. Mary
>>>> (married Phebus), Catherine (married Kyle), William and Thomas.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone who has tips or ideas on records that would help me
>>>> proceed or have more info on this family, thanks! I would like
>>>> to figure out how to find out which county in Ireland this
>>>> family came from - if that is even possible? Limerick? Since a
>>>> lot of west siders were from that county?
>>>>
>>>> And the Tracey family? Any info on them?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> K.M.K.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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