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From: "Shirley Gaskill" <>
Subject: Re: [IRL-CEMETERIES] IRELAND TOMBSTONE LIST
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:03:20 +1000
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Cara, first time for me in this list.
Wanting any sort of cemetery/tombstone/grave snippets re the WALSH FAMILY
(don't groan, I know there are heaps). This lot came from Wales, two
brothers. One settled in Kilkenny. My clues are
Muckalee, Castlecomber, Walshtown. There is a MATTHEW WALSH my ggg
grandfather. His wife may have been Caroline although the priest could have
got it wrong. Not sure how may children he had but JAMES WALSH emigrated to
Sydney Australia in the early 1860's with his wife ANN CONRON.
They would have been married in Kilkenny. They had children Patrick, who
didn't emigrate, Mathew, John, Martin & Anne who did emigrate.1859-1863.
One of these we think was transported as he refused to bend his knee to
Royalty.
I would love to solve even a little part of this mystery.
1) Where were MATTHEW WALSH and his wife CAROLINE(?) buried.
2) His son JAMES emigrated but his son PATRICK did not so was it that he
didn't want to, or
was he already dead, or did he become a priest. There was supposed to
be several sons took to the priesthood and rose well up in the orders, also
female relatives became nuns.

I am not convinced that the priest got the christian name of Matthew's wife
right, or maybe he
married more than once.

I suspect that his son James who emigrated to Australia may have married
more than once and that Ann Conron was not his first wife. I even suspect
that he may have had children with that first wife.
A lot of unanswered questions.
They did bring a family bible from Ireland but most of the women had
scrubbed out their birthdates
and replaced them with dates they wish they had had.
They were supposed to be landed Gentry. Chancery was supposed to have
grabbed up most of their lands and horses etc. My grandfather (son of
Matthew son of James son of Matthew) did contact Chancery in London to try &
get whatever was there and they said it would probably be OK but that
my grandfather or his solicitor would be better living in London for a
couple of years to be there on the spot as was required etc. If he had done
that, however much was there, would have been used up just living in London
not to mention the costs of solicitors & court proceeding., so he had to
drop off the dream of getting rich on his fathers Chancery fortune. Oh
well!
If there should be anyone interested in our family history I am always happy
to share.

Note: Everytime there was a new cemetery opened in Sydney NSW Australia, my
G Grandfather Matthew, bearing in mind the exploding size of his brothers
families, would bury grave sites for the family.
He purchased a double grave in Waverley Cemetery, Bronte, Sydney NSW
Australia.I was over there one day as a child (every Sunday with my dad) and
asked whose grave it was. The etching on the bottom said it was the family
grave of MATTHEW WALSH. I couldn't find his name on the tombstones
anywhere.....He wasn't in it. When he died (at 41yrs) the family put him in
the Rookwood Cemetery
with his parents JAMES & ANN and various infants etc.
While researching the family history grave details, I was stunned to find a
triple grave, beautifully tiled, in the original R.C. Section not far from
the Irish Monument. My GGfathers brother MARTIN WALSH
his wife ELIZABETH QUIGLEY and a couple of their infants were buried there.
Also was anothe couple of descendants of my grandfather PATRICK WALSH'S
brother WILLIAM WALSH.
Well seeing that the double grave was almost full I gave the cemetery trust
long & involved proof of my direct descendancy (took everything but
fingerprints) and took over trusteeship of the grave together with my two
sons. When I say 'took over, I forgot to mention the $1000 costs of putting
stamps on the beautiful new certificates we were given as 'ID' to our
trusteeship...........................................................
Paddy Walsh

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From: "Cara_Links" <>
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Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 3:37 PM
Subject: [IRL-CEMETERIES] IRELAND TOMBSTONE LIST


> Quite funny this is until I posted this to the list this morning I was not
> aware that I had been unsubbed
> so I never received a mail saying I had been unsubbed
> so there you are folk never believe that the bounced mails wont pick on
> you at some time or another
> But below is what I was trying to get to the list
> Now I will go search archives and see what I have missed
> CARA
>
>
>> For those of you who are joining this list, this is not to ask for a mass
>> exodus from this list
>> Because as my tired fingers strive to finish data for this list ( it will
>> arrive on this)
>> But I am writing this to remind you that we actually have a Ireland
>> tombstone list
>> and an Ireland Obit list
>>
>> But it depends on the time frame and how popular your ancestor was if
>> there should be an obit on him, cemeteries -well I did try to have both
>> lists combined -but the lovely people that give us space deemed it too
>> hard- so hence I have tried to find details on old churches, cemeteries
>> and lore on such, but its got to all be typed up to be put here of
>> course.
>>
>> So if anyone has been to Ireland recently seen an old church, and old
>> cemetery dont be shy post us some details here, or are you going to
>> Ireland and need to find where an old cemetery is ?
>>
>> But dont forget to check the archives of the other list if you do not
>> wish to sub to them
>> I will from time to time place an index of stones down this list as well
>> But as I dont know what any of you are seeking, perhaps you had all
>> better say what it is??
>>
>> Cara
>>
>>
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