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From: "M Nickless" <>
Subject: Re: [INLAWREN] Who can define the law?
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2003 14:37:05 -0800
I have seen this debate many times. I also am not a lawyer, but my
understanding is that FACTS cannot be copyrighted. This would include
marriage information - dates, names, & places -- which are also a matter of
public record. If all Treva is doing is placing names, dates, &
places onto the Lawrence Co. GenWeb site, I do not believe there is
There is some information at Genealogy.com that might be helpful.
One paragraph reads:
Certain expressions cannot receive copyright protection, either because they
are not original (such as ideas, facts, events, news of the day, concepts,
principles, Laws of Nature, or discoveries), or the domain of patent law
(devices, procedures, processes, method of operation) or trademark law
(names, titles, logos). If a concept can only be described in a limited
number of ways, its expression is said to "merge" with the concept and is
also not copyrightable. Also not copyrightable are blank forms, plain
calendars, and lists or tables taken from public documents or other common
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2003 2:03 PM
Subject: [INLAWREN] Who can define the law?
I am not a lawyer, and only sending this email as a bit of "source"
information on the present topic, "COPYRIGHT", and I'm sure the list does
not want to
spend three days in a debate over this letter. So, please take this with a
grain of salt, and let's find more ancestors.
As to COPYRIGHT I'm certain there are many views, written and otherwise.
According to "BLACK'S LAW DICTIONARY" Fourth Edition, by Henry Campbell
COPYRIGHT. The right of literary property as recognized and sanctioned
by positive law. An intangible, incorporeal right granted by statute to the
author or originator of certain literary or artistic productions, whereby he
invested, for a limited period, with the sole and exclusive privilege of
multiplying copies of the same and publishing and selling them.
International copyright is the right of a subject of one country to
protection against the republication in another country of a work which he
published in his own country.
Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary, shows inside the cover, "Based on
Webster's Third New International Dictionary," G. & C. Merriam Company,
Publishers, Springfield, MA USA
COPYRIGHT. The exclusive legal right to reproduce, publish and sell the
matter and form of a literary, musical, or artistic work.
I know from other sources that mention "if you do not take material
to others, and reproduce as your own, or sell, or make a profit, then you
have not violated the Copyright Law. "
Are marriage books, cemetery books, deed books, or genealogy considered
"Literary, musical or artistic?"
Warm Regards, Mac Elliott