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From: "don taylor" <>
Subject: Re: [GM-L] Our ancestors had itchy feet !
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 16:33:13 -0500
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Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't the frist Baptist Church in New England
the one started in Providence by Roger Williams and others? Does anyone know
what year it was formed?
Don Taylor
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From: "charles s brack jr" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [GM-L] Our ancestors had itchy feet !

> My ancestor Arthur HOWLAND was a well known Quaker or Quaker sympathizer
> Plymouth Colony (see Stratton's book on Plymouth Colony). Arthur may have
> been harassed but I don't believe he was put to death or had his tongue
> pierced. I belive his death was of natural causes at Marshfield.
> I also had well-known Baptists in MA in the 1600s and none were put to
> death.
> There was a French Church in existence in the mid 1600s in Boston and it
> allowed to exist.
> I'm a WASP and have no axe to grind. I have heard some very bad stories
> about intolerance in present day MA (1900s) and it's probably no
> anywhere else in the world. That's why we have present day laws pertaining
> to prejudice and intolerance. It's not much different now. I think we need
> to compare present-day MA or anywhere else with what was happening in the
> 1600s.
> Charles
> -----Original Message-----
> From: <>
> To: <>
> Date: Monday, October 27, 2003 6:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [GM-L] Our ancestors had itchy feet !
> >In the early settlement of Massachusetts Bay Colony, there was no
> separation
> >of church and state. You were expected to support the minister of the
> >established church (Congregational) and, as each town was laid out, a
> for the
> >minister was set aside. Anyone who deviated from this support and/or
> attendance
> >at meeting, was brought into court. See the Records and Files of the
> >Quarterly Court of Essex County for specific cases.
> >
> >The appearance of the "Quakers" (as members of the Society of Friends
> >known) in the mid 1650s was particularly disturbing as it challenged the
> >established church and, in essence, the government. The attempt to rid
> Colony
> >of "this cursed sect of heretics" resulted in harsh laws, barbaric
> punishments,
> >banishment and even death. One of the penalties for failing to recant
> after
> >the third time was having a hot iron used to bore a hole through the
> tongue.
> >Specifics can be found in Records of the Governor and Company of the
> >Massachusetts Bay in New England by Nathaniel B. Shurtleff.
> >
> >For those residing in Plymouth Colony, the best source for understanding
> life
> >and laws is Plymouth Colony by Eugene Stratton.
> >
> >As to reasons to migrate - some were simply occupational. A brickmaker,
> for
> >instance, was in great demand in the infant communities and offered
> >inducements to reside there. As the equipment for mills became
> locations
> >near a waterfall were highly desirable (even necessary) and land was
> bought
> >or sold to accomplish this.
> >
> >The conditions were primitive for those who had the courage to migrate
> >virgin territory. There were no roads, no buildings - but the inducement
> of
> >cheap land in exchange for settling was particularly attractive to
> in
> >which the divided land could no longer support the number of children.
> >meant one had to erect a building to certain specifications and clear a
> specified
> >amount of land within a set time limit to take advantage of the offer.
> >the proprietor died before the agreement was finalized his heirs were
> no
> >obligation to honor the agreement. I believe it is the History of
> Industry,
> >Maine which points out this very poignant situation of land and buildings
> being
> >lost for this reason.
> >
> >Greed had little to do with the acquisition of land- unless you were the
> >absentee proprietor. Those who settled the land were attempting to
> and
> >provide for a family.
> >
> >In the early 19th century, parts of Maine were subject both to drought
> a
> >devastating summer of cold weather. Families were forced to move to find
> >way in which to survive.
> >
> >Bottom line - before we make any judgments as to motives, read the
> histories
> >of the various towns - the work, the failure of crops, the lack of
> integrity
> >on the part of the proprietors. One of my own ancestors, in an attempt
> >better support his family of 10 children, went from southern
> to
> > horse, no wagon. One assumes they used rivers and the sea as
> their
> >route but it sure could not have been an easy trip which undoubtedly
> >weeks....and still had to erect shelter AFTER they arrived.
> >
> >
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