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Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Bohemian-Bavarian Historic time table
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 14:29:15 -0500
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Hi Randy:
Saw your email. I have Weber relatives that came over from Luxembourg,
Heffingen, in the 1868 period to the St. Cloud, MN area. Any connection with
you?

Jack Knott
Phone: 314-265-7778
Fax: 636-352-0181

----- Original Message -----
From: "randy mathes" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Bohemian-Bavarian Historic time table


> Pam,
> I am not sure if i have asked you this once before or not, but where do
> your Weber's hale from? mine came from just across the border, in
> Bavaria, if yors came form the saem general area, please email me back at
>
>
> randy
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pam" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 7:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Bohemian-Bavarian Historic time table
>
>
>> thank you so much for this info!!!! My SCHALLOMs hail from Bohemia and
>> I've
>> never been able to get this type of info - much thanks!
>>
>> Pam
>>
>>
>> ~Pam Frierdich-Staley~
>> Warrenton, MO
>> http://www.michael-steppig-family-tree.com
>> http://www.frierdich-staley-familytree.com
>> Looking for surnames of BALL/BAWL, BANGERT, CINNAUGHT/CANNAUGHT, DIESEL,
>> DILLON, FIEBER, FIELDS, FRIERDICH/FRIEDRICH, GOLD, HATTER/HOERTER,
>> KIEFER,
>> KRAFT, LEATHCO, MEES/MAES, MENTEL, MICHALEK (MICHAEL/EAL), MITCHELL,
>> PROBST,
>> RABEL, RAPP, REIS, ROTAN, SCHALLOM, SCHELLHORN, SCHRAMM, SCHUBERT,
>> STALEY,
>> STEPPIG, THOELE, WEBER
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Frank Soural" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 7:39 PM
>> Subject: RE: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Bohemian-Bavarian Historic time table
>>
>>
>> Das ist gut.
>> and should be published
>> Send it to Paul and Gary.
>>
>> Frank
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Aida Kraus [mailto:]
>> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 6:04 PM
>> To:
>> Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Bohemian-Bavarian Historic time table
>>
>> It is not easy to find the early history of Bavaria and Bohemia settled
>> by
>> Germanic tribes on any of the available English websites. Therefore, I
>> have translated this for you from this German website. Aida
>>
>> http://www.mittgard.de/archiv/index_02.html
>>
>> Germanic Time Table including Bohemia:
>>
>>
>>
>> 113 BC The Cimbrians (a German tribe from Jutland - now Denmark)
>> wandered
>> south along the Elbe River into the area of the native Celts of Bohemia,
>> disbursing them towards the Salzburg area.
>>
>>
>>
>> 9 BC Marbod and his Marcoman tribe arrives from the area of the Main in
>> Bohemia and founded the Kingdom of the Langobards combining with the
>> Germanic Lugier, Semnones and Bojers (native Germans of Bohemia)
>>
>>
>>
>> 1 Century AD: along the lower and middle Elbe River the area experiences
>> severe climatic changes and the increasing cold in the Northland drives
>> German tribes upwards the Elbe River into Bohemia. It is the same
>> climatic
>> change that drove the Cimbrians South 114 years before.
>>
>>
>>
>> 166 AD: Because of increased influx of tribes coming from the North to a
>> milder climate South, the Marcomans are forced to ask the Romans for
>> additional land. That request was rebuked.
>>
>>
>>
>> 166-180 AD The Markoman go to war with Rome, lost the battle and nearly
>> became a province of Rome called "Markomannia." Emperor Marcus Aurelius
>> dies during the battle in Bohemia of pestilence which the Roman
>> Legionnaires
>> brought with them; his son Commodus is forced to leave as his troops are
>> decimated and the old borders are reestablished.
>>
>>
>>
>> 179 A.D. A new Roman garrison is built at Castra Regina (Regensburg,
>> later
>> Ratisbon) and becomes the most important settlement in the North of the
>> Roman border on the Danube.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2. to 5th Century AD: the Markoman tribe wanders West and settles in the
>> area around Strakonitz where they produce a distinct ceramic art. There,
>> archeological digs found that the Marcomans still burned their dead,
>> while
>> other tribes are building cemeteries with side by side graves. The
>> Marcoman
>> tribe of the Strakonitz culture become the first Bajuvaren = Bavarians
>> (people from Bohemia or Boii).
>>
>>
>>
>> 350 AD: Marcomanni, now are called Bajuvaren, settled around
>> Friedenshein (now Prestovice in Czech) move into the Roman Federation of
>> Regensburg and are settling the land along the rivers Regnitz and Main.
>> There they mingle quickly with the German tribes of the Quaden, Sueben,
>> Rugier and some of the Roman occupants. The Bajuwarian Dukes
>> Agilolfinger
>> were similar to the Langobards, intermarrying they become the ruling
>> nobles.
>>
>>
>>
>> 400 AD: As the Romans abandoned Regensburg, it became the seat of the
>> Friedenshein (Strakonitz) Bohemian Federation.
>>
>>
>>
>> 476 AD: Rome eliminated payment to the Federation and the tribe leaves
>> the
>> Citadel and settles in the countryside along the Danube to live from
>> agriculture as in the past. This area is now called Raetia.
>>
>>
>>
>> 493 AD: The land Raetien comes under the leadership of the Eastern Goths
>> under Theodoric. (The Goths originate in Gotland, now Sweden, who had
>> wandered and settled over many centuries along the Volga from the
>> Baltic
>> to the Black Sea. People of the Southern Ukraine still spoke Gothic
>> until
>> the 17 century.) Theodoric forms a Bajuvarian Federation.
>>
>>
>>
>> 496 AD: As Germanic tribes fight for land among themselves, the
>> Alamanni
>> flee from the Franks and find a new home in the Bajuvarian Federation.
>>
>>
>>
>> 508-537 AD: Duke Theodo I. forms a coalition among the tribes of the
>> German
>> Franks, Vandals, Langobards and as well as Awars and Huns from the East
>> to
>> drive the Romans back across the Alps. They establish Germanic
>> cult-altars
>> at Epolding (Munich area) Bavaria.
>>
>>
>>
>> 520 AD: Duke Theodo I. drives the Romans out of Oetting.
>>
>>
>>
>> 5.- 6. Century: Carinthia has been taken by Slavic tribes. (Carinthia
>> "Kaernten" is a Province of Austria of which the Southern part is now
>> Croatia, formerly Yugoslavia). The Bajuwars occupy the land and drive the
>> Slaves out of Carinthia.
>>
>>
>>
>> 531-536 AD: The Franks triumph over the Thuringians and with this the
>> Bajuwarian Agilogfingers become the rulers for the Realm of the Franks.
>> Regensburg becomes their royal administrative seat and from there the
>> first
>> attempts for Christianizing are made.
>>
>>
>>
>> 536 AD: The rule of the Eastern Goths under King Witigis ends when he
>> abdicates and leaves his realm to the Frankish King Theudebert in the
>> hope
>> that the Franks would refrain from warring against the East-Roman
>> Emperero
>> Justinian I. while the Bajuwars held a strong position in the federation.
>> This can be seen by their refusal to war against the Slavic King Samo.
>>
>>
>>
>> 526-568 AD: The Bajuwars spread out over the entire area of Pannonia
>> (Austria) and upper Italy under Duke Udo.
>>
>>
>>
>> 565 AD: there is a written recording by Venantius Fortunatus, the Bishop
>> at
>> Poitiers, locating the Bajuwars in the area of the Lech River in upper
>> Italy.
>>
>>
>>
>> 566-567 AD: Reign of Duke Theobald
>>
>>
>>
>> 567-580 AD: Reign of Duke Garibald I
>>
>>
>>
>> 568 AD: The Langobards settle in the area of upper Italy; the Bajuwars
>> become strategic border enforcers against the Awars in the Hungarian
>> lowlands.
>>
>>
>>
>> 575-588 AD: The Franks start warring with the Langobards. The Bajuwar
>> Garibald, however, fights on the side of the Langobards because both of
>> his
>> daughters are married to two Langobard royals, King Evin or Trient, and
>> King
>> Authari of the Langobard realm.
>>
>>
>>
>> 580-598 AD: King Tassilo I. leads many skirmishes and is killed fighting
>> against the invading Czechs pressing towards the West.
>>
>>
>>
>> 598-630 AD: Duke Garibald II follows his father and continues the war
>> against the infiltration of the Czechs. The Frankish Arnulfingers have
>> Duke
>> Garibald II assassinated.
>>
>>
>>
>> 630-641 AD: Duke Fara, the son of Garibald II takes over the Dukedom
>> and
>> he rebels against the Franks who killed his father. He is supported by
>> the
>> Duke Radolf of Thuringia. Duke Fara dies on the battlefield against the
>> Frankish King Sigisbert III.
>>
>>
>>
>> 640-680 AD: Duke Theodo IV gave shelter to the Frankish Missionary
>> Bishop
>> Emmeram at his castle in Regensburg. He thanked the Duke by making his
>> daughter pregnant and promptly disappearing on a pilgrimage to Rome.
>> Landpert, the son of Theodo pursued and killed him. The Church, however,
>> proclaimed Emmeram a Saint.
>>
>>
>>
>> 688 AD: Landpert takes over the realm.
>>
>>
>>
>> 700 AD: Destruction of the old Bajuvarian cult-altars of Epolding
>> while a
>> new church built of stone is erected over the site.
>>
>>
>>
>> 714 AD: The Bajuvarian Realm is split among the four grandchildren of
>> Duke
>> Theo V. who was the grandson of duke Garibald II.
>>
>>
>>
>> 719 AD: Tassilo II dies without issue.
>>
>>
>>
>> 719- 725 AD: Tassilo's brother Theudebert is taking over and marries his
>> daughter Swanahild with Karl Martell, a Frank. (Here we are going into
>> Charlemagne's line!)
>>
>> His other daughter is married to the Langobard King Luitprand.
>>
>>
>>
>> 725-739 AD: Theudebert's early death brings his under-age son Hugberth
>> into
>> line and this gives Karl Martell an advantage. He arranged that Hugberth
>> would be forced by the Frankish King Theuderich IV to call on Bonifacius
>> to
>> convert his entire Bavarian realm to Catholocism.
>>
>>
>>
>> 739-749 AD: Duke Odilo marries Hiltrud, the daughter of Karl Martell.
>> He
>> firmly establishes the church in various dioceses. In return a document
>> is
>> issued to assure the legal rights of a Bavarian Realm.
>>
>>
>>
>> 742-743 AD: This document brought him into conflict with Karloman and
>> Pippin and he had to write it over into the Frankish Realm, and for this
>> he
>> was awarded a Bavarian Dukedom.
>>
>>
>>
>> 749-788 AD: Tassilo III. (son of Odilo and Hiltrud) is a cousin of
>> Charlemagne and when he becomes Duke of Bavaria he marries Luitbirga, the
>> daughter of King Desiderium of the Lombards, who is an enemy of
>> Charlemagne.
>>
>>
>>
>> 763 AD: Tassilo III denies to join Charlemagne's in his war against
>> Aquitaine.
>>
>>
>>
>> 774 AD: Charlemagne conquers Lombardy. By that, Tassilo lost his
>> staunchest
>> supporter.
>>
>>
>>
>> 787 AD: Tassilo III forms an alliance with the Awars against
>> Charlemagne,
>> loses this fight and becomes a vassal of Charlemagne.
>>
>>
>>
>> 788 AD: Tassilo III is convicted by for treason, for which there is a
>> death
>> sentence, but leniency is granted him to live out the rest of his life in
>> a
>> monastery. With this the Agilolfingers have lost ruling power in
>> Bavaria,
>> but the family continued to exist as Bavarian Dukes until the Middle ages
>> with legal standing.
>>
>>
>>
>> 791-793 AD: Charlemagne spends a Winter in Regensburg to personally
>> oversee
>> the process in incorporating all Bavarian lands in the Frankish realm.
>>
>>
>>
>> 794 AD: Tassilo III is brought from the cloister to Regensburg, to set
>> his
>> signature under the document that signs his land over to the Frankish
>> realm.
>>
>>
>> (The heartland of German Frankonia is - however - a part of the State of
>> Bavaria now!)
>>
>>
>>
>> 814 AD: Charlemagne's death leads to documentation whereby a Carolingian
>> ownership of certain Bavarian areas are established. The oldest Lothar,
>> son
>> of "Ludwig der Fromme" (Louis the German), becomes King of Bavaria. He
>> is
>> the grandson of Charlemagne, thereby the land goes from Bavarian to
>> Carolingian hands.
>>
>>
>>
>> 817 AD: When the realm of Charlemagne is split up, the Bavarian and
>> Bohemian lands go to Louis the German.
>>
>>
>>
>> 845 AD: 14 Slavic Bohemian leaders arrive at Regensburg to be baptized.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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