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From: "randy mathes" <>
Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Bohemian-Bavarian Historic time table
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 09:39:31 -0500
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Pam,
I am not sure if i have asked you this once before or not, but where do
your Weber's hale from? mine came from just across the border, in Bavaria,
if yors came form the saem general area, please email me back at


randy


----- Original Message -----
From: "Pam" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Bohemian-Bavarian Historic time table


> thank you so much for this info!!!! My SCHALLOMs hail from Bohemia and
> I've
> never been able to get this type of info - much thanks!
>
> Pam
>
>
> ~Pam Frierdich-Staley~
> Warrenton, MO
> http://www.michael-steppig-family-tree.com
> http://www.frierdich-staley-familytree.com
> Looking for surnames of BALL/BAWL, BANGERT, CINNAUGHT/CANNAUGHT, DIESEL,
> DILLON, FIEBER, FIELDS, FRIERDICH/FRIEDRICH, GOLD, HATTER/HOERTER, KIEFER,
> KRAFT, LEATHCO, MEES/MAES, MENTEL, MICHALEK (MICHAEL/EAL), MITCHELL,
> PROBST,
> RABEL, RAPP, REIS, ROTAN, SCHALLOM, SCHELLHORN, SCHRAMM, SCHUBERT,
> STALEY,
> STEPPIG, THOELE, WEBER
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Frank Soural" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 7:39 PM
> Subject: RE: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Bohemian-Bavarian Historic time table
>
>
> Das ist gut.
> and should be published
> Send it to Paul and Gary.
>
> Frank
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aida Kraus [mailto:]
> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 6:04 PM
> To:
> Subject: [GERMAN-BOHEMIAN] Bohemian-Bavarian Historic time table
>
> It is not easy to find the early history of Bavaria and Bohemia settled by
> Germanic tribes on any of the available English websites. Therefore, I
> have translated this for you from this German website. Aida
>
> http://www.mittgard.de/archiv/index_02.html
>
> Germanic Time Table including Bohemia:
>
>
>
> 113 BC The Cimbrians (a German tribe from Jutland - now Denmark)
> wandered
> south along the Elbe River into the area of the native Celts of Bohemia,
> disbursing them towards the Salzburg area.
>
>
>
> 9 BC Marbod and his Marcoman tribe arrives from the area of the Main in
> Bohemia and founded the Kingdom of the Langobards combining with the
> Germanic Lugier, Semnones and Bojers (native Germans of Bohemia)
>
>
>
> 1 Century AD: along the lower and middle Elbe River the area experiences
> severe climatic changes and the increasing cold in the Northland drives
> German tribes upwards the Elbe River into Bohemia. It is the same
> climatic
> change that drove the Cimbrians South 114 years before.
>
>
>
> 166 AD: Because of increased influx of tribes coming from the North to a
> milder climate South, the Marcomans are forced to ask the Romans for
> additional land. That request was rebuked.
>
>
>
> 166-180 AD The Markoman go to war with Rome, lost the battle and nearly
> became a province of Rome called "Markomannia." Emperor Marcus Aurelius
> dies during the battle in Bohemia of pestilence which the Roman
> Legionnaires
> brought with them; his son Commodus is forced to leave as his troops are
> decimated and the old borders are reestablished.
>
>
>
> 179 A.D. A new Roman garrison is built at Castra Regina (Regensburg,
> later
> Ratisbon) and becomes the most important settlement in the North of the
> Roman border on the Danube.
>
>
>
> 2. to 5th Century AD: the Markoman tribe wanders West and settles in the
> area around Strakonitz where they produce a distinct ceramic art. There,
> archeological digs found that the Marcomans still burned their dead, while
> other tribes are building cemeteries with side by side graves. The
> Marcoman
> tribe of the Strakonitz culture become the first Bajuvaren = Bavarians
> (people from Bohemia or Boii).
>
>
>
> 350 AD: Marcomanni, now are called Bajuvaren, settled around
> Friedenshein (now Prestovice in Czech) move into the Roman Federation of
> Regensburg and are settling the land along the rivers Regnitz and Main.
> There they mingle quickly with the German tribes of the Quaden, Sueben,
> Rugier and some of the Roman occupants. The Bajuwarian Dukes Agilolfinger
> were similar to the Langobards, intermarrying they become the ruling
> nobles.
>
>
>
> 400 AD: As the Romans abandoned Regensburg, it became the seat of the
> Friedenshein (Strakonitz) Bohemian Federation.
>
>
>
> 476 AD: Rome eliminated payment to the Federation and the tribe leaves
> the
> Citadel and settles in the countryside along the Danube to live from
> agriculture as in the past. This area is now called Raetia.
>
>
>
> 493 AD: The land Raetien comes under the leadership of the Eastern Goths
> under Theodoric. (The Goths originate in Gotland, now Sweden, who had
> wandered and settled over many centuries along the Volga from the Baltic
> to the Black Sea. People of the Southern Ukraine still spoke Gothic until
> the 17 century.) Theodoric forms a Bajuvarian Federation.
>
>
>
> 496 AD: As Germanic tribes fight for land among themselves, the Alamanni
> flee from the Franks and find a new home in the Bajuvarian Federation.
>
>
>
> 508-537 AD: Duke Theodo I. forms a coalition among the tribes of the
> German
> Franks, Vandals, Langobards and as well as Awars and Huns from the East to
> drive the Romans back across the Alps. They establish Germanic
> cult-altars
> at Epolding (Munich area) Bavaria.
>
>
>
> 520 AD: Duke Theodo I. drives the Romans out of Oetting.
>
>
>
> 5.- 6. Century: Carinthia has been taken by Slavic tribes. (Carinthia
> "Kaernten" is a Province of Austria of which the Southern part is now
> Croatia, formerly Yugoslavia). The Bajuwars occupy the land and drive the
> Slaves out of Carinthia.
>
>
>
> 531-536 AD: The Franks triumph over the Thuringians and with this the
> Bajuwarian Agilogfingers become the rulers for the Realm of the Franks.
> Regensburg becomes their royal administrative seat and from there the
> first
> attempts for Christianizing are made.
>
>
>
> 536 AD: The rule of the Eastern Goths under King Witigis ends when he
> abdicates and leaves his realm to the Frankish King Theudebert in the hope
> that the Franks would refrain from warring against the East-Roman Emperero
> Justinian I. while the Bajuwars held a strong position in the federation.
> This can be seen by their refusal to war against the Slavic King Samo.
>
>
>
> 526-568 AD: The Bajuwars spread out over the entire area of Pannonia
> (Austria) and upper Italy under Duke Udo.
>
>
>
> 565 AD: there is a written recording by Venantius Fortunatus, the Bishop
> at
> Poitiers, locating the Bajuwars in the area of the Lech River in upper
> Italy.
>
>
>
> 566-567 AD: Reign of Duke Theobald
>
>
>
> 567-580 AD: Reign of Duke Garibald I
>
>
>
> 568 AD: The Langobards settle in the area of upper Italy; the Bajuwars
> become strategic border enforcers against the Awars in the Hungarian
> lowlands.
>
>
>
> 575-588 AD: The Franks start warring with the Langobards. The Bajuwar
> Garibald, however, fights on the side of the Langobards because both of
> his
> daughters are married to two Langobard royals, King Evin or Trient, and
> King
> Authari of the Langobard realm.
>
>
>
> 580-598 AD: King Tassilo I. leads many skirmishes and is killed fighting
> against the invading Czechs pressing towards the West.
>
>
>
> 598-630 AD: Duke Garibald II follows his father and continues the war
> against the infiltration of the Czechs. The Frankish Arnulfingers have
> Duke
> Garibald II assassinated.
>
>
>
> 630-641 AD: Duke Fara, the son of Garibald II takes over the Dukedom and
> he rebels against the Franks who killed his father. He is supported by
> the
> Duke Radolf of Thuringia. Duke Fara dies on the battlefield against the
> Frankish King Sigisbert III.
>
>
>
> 640-680 AD: Duke Theodo IV gave shelter to the Frankish Missionary Bishop
> Emmeram at his castle in Regensburg. He thanked the Duke by making his
> daughter pregnant and promptly disappearing on a pilgrimage to Rome.
> Landpert, the son of Theodo pursued and killed him. The Church, however,
> proclaimed Emmeram a Saint.
>
>
>
> 688 AD: Landpert takes over the realm.
>
>
>
> 700 AD: Destruction of the old Bajuvarian cult-altars of Epolding while
> a
> new church built of stone is erected over the site.
>
>
>
> 714 AD: The Bajuvarian Realm is split among the four grandchildren of
> Duke
> Theo V. who was the grandson of duke Garibald II.
>
>
>
> 719 AD: Tassilo II dies without issue.
>
>
>
> 719- 725 AD: Tassilo's brother Theudebert is taking over and marries his
> daughter Swanahild with Karl Martell, a Frank. (Here we are going into
> Charlemagne's line!)
>
> His other daughter is married to the Langobard King Luitprand.
>
>
>
> 725-739 AD: Theudebert's early death brings his under-age son Hugberth
> into
> line and this gives Karl Martell an advantage. He arranged that Hugberth
> would be forced by the Frankish King Theuderich IV to call on Bonifacius
> to
> convert his entire Bavarian realm to Catholocism.
>
>
>
> 739-749 AD: Duke Odilo marries Hiltrud, the daughter of Karl Martell. He
> firmly establishes the church in various dioceses. In return a document
> is
> issued to assure the legal rights of a Bavarian Realm.
>
>
>
> 742-743 AD: This document brought him into conflict with Karloman and
> Pippin and he had to write it over into the Frankish Realm, and for this
> he
> was awarded a Bavarian Dukedom.
>
>
>
> 749-788 AD: Tassilo III. (son of Odilo and Hiltrud) is a cousin of
> Charlemagne and when he becomes Duke of Bavaria he marries Luitbirga, the
> daughter of King Desiderium of the Lombards, who is an enemy of
> Charlemagne.
>
>
>
> 763 AD: Tassilo III denies to join Charlemagne's in his war against
> Aquitaine.
>
>
>
> 774 AD: Charlemagne conquers Lombardy. By that, Tassilo lost his
> staunchest
> supporter.
>
>
>
> 787 AD: Tassilo III forms an alliance with the Awars against Charlemagne,
> loses this fight and becomes a vassal of Charlemagne.
>
>
>
> 788 AD: Tassilo III is convicted by for treason, for which there is a
> death
> sentence, but leniency is granted him to live out the rest of his life in
> a
> monastery. With this the Agilolfingers have lost ruling power in
> Bavaria,
> but the family continued to exist as Bavarian Dukes until the Middle ages
> with legal standing.
>
>
>
> 791-793 AD: Charlemagne spends a Winter in Regensburg to personally
> oversee
> the process in incorporating all Bavarian lands in the Frankish realm.
>
>
>
> 794 AD: Tassilo III is brought from the cloister to Regensburg, to set
> his
> signature under the document that signs his land over to the Frankish
> realm.
>
>
> (The heartland of German Frankonia is - however - a part of the State of
> Bavaria now!)
>
>
>
> 814 AD: Charlemagne's death leads to documentation whereby a Carolingian
> ownership of certain Bavarian areas are established. The oldest Lothar,
> son
> of "Ludwig der Fromme" (Louis the German), becomes King of Bavaria. He
> is
> the grandson of Charlemagne, thereby the land goes from Bavarian to
> Carolingian hands.
>
>
>
> 817 AD: When the realm of Charlemagne is split up, the Bavarian and
> Bohemian lands go to Louis the German.
>
>
>
> 845 AD: 14 Slavic Bohemian leaders arrive at Regensburg to be baptized.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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