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From: Susan <>
Subject: Re: [GV] GER-VOLGA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 30
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 01:35:19 +0000 (UTC)
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Hi Lauren,

Thankyou, for your generous offer. Momma was Martha Hofferber  Stenson b. 8/26/1921 Billings, MT.  - d. 12/28/2011 in Modesto, CA. although she still had her home here in Olympia, WA.
Susan
"If at first you don't succeed, do it the way your Mother told you!"

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: GER-VOLGA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Lauren Brantner)
   2. Seidlitz -- Article on "Manners and Customs in the Volga
      German Colonies" (David Schmidt)
   3. Re: GER-VOLGA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 28 (Susan)


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Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 12:01:45 -0800 (PST)
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Susan,
I will put your mother's information into the SOAR database but I think you have a date error.  Did she pass away in December of 2011?

Lauren Brantner
AHSGR SOAR Committee

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> ???1. Re: GER-VOLGA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20
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> Hello,
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> My Mother, Martha Hofferber Stenson?passed away 12/28/2012
> at age 90. I do not have a formal obituary to post , but I
> would my GV family to know how much she was loved & how
> much she will be missed. Her parents were Jacob Hofferber b
> 1879 in either Frank or Bethanien, & Katherine Margaret
> Wiederspahn b 1879 in either Walter or Bethanien. They left
> Russia in 1912 for Canada, then Montan a in 1915, &
> finally settled in the Yakima Valley in Washington State.
> Momma was the last surving sibling of 10. Two of which died
> in Russia as infants.?Momma has ?3 ?children, Susan, Linda,
> & Stephen & 11 grandchildren, (2 of them preceeding
> her in death) & 13 great grandchildren.
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>
> Susan
> "If at first you don't succeed, do it the way your Mother
> told you!"
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2012 13:07:23 -0800 (PST)
From: David Schmidt <>
Subject: [GV] Seidlitz -- Article on "Manners and Customs in the Volga
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In one of Hugh Lichtenwald's translations, the following language appeared in a letter from Pastor J. Seidlitz from Paulskoje:
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I have, however, still another hope and it is the following: I am writing a piece entitled: "Manners and Customs in the Volga German Colonies." This work is the result of many years of observing and collecting. It describes the Volga Colonists joy and suffering as they "lebt und webt." (idiomatic expression: unknown meaning; literally "lived and weaved/spun" ...xlater). When this book is published -- depending upon the format --- it will be 100-150 pages in length. I would like to have this book published. I offer it to you and your association. Buy the manuscript from me and have it printed in book form. You could sell it to the Volga Germans over there. I am certain that there is not a single Volga Colonist family that would not buy the book. It is written in plain, folksy language and thus something quite special for the Volga Colonists in America.

I recall having seen an article like this before and think it was published in an old?Volga German publication in Germany (Deutsche Post aus dem Osten?). Does anyone know whether Pastor Seidlitz's piece on "Manners and Customs in the Volga German Colonies" made it into print? If so, where was it published?

David F. Schmidt
Village Coordinator for Boaro, C?sarsfeld & Stahl am Karaman
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Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 01:05:53 +0000 (UTC)
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Dear Peter,

Thankyou, for taking time to post. As a young girl, I spent 2 years in Munchen back in the 1960's. I? dreamed of returning, one day, but it wasn't to be.

My grandfather Jacob Hofferber was born in July 187 9, I do think his father was Conrad, but on a ships document his mother was listed as Lydia & her last name may have been Zimmer.?I have tried for years to find the puzzle pieces to my family, but after the y went to the cauca sus, it's been impossible. My grandmothers parents, according to the family Bible, were Christian Wiederspahn & Anna Elisabeth Walter from Walter. Recently, someone contacted me saying their name was Weber, not Walter. I don't know how to substantiate that. I can send you a copy of our family tree, & it is posted on Facbook, as well. ? ?
Susan
"If at first you don't succeed, do it the way your Mother told you!"

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Today's Topics:

?? 1. Re: GER-VOLGA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Peter Woddow)
?? 2. Re: GER-VOLGA Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27 (Peter Woddow)
?? 3. Die Welt-Post, June 5, 1924 (Dinkel, Straub, Lauwe)
?? ? ?(hugh lichtenwald)
?? 4. Die Welt-Post, June 5, 1924 (Neu-Doenhof) (hugh lichtenwald)
?? 5. GV - US Returnees to Russia ca 1914 ()
?? 6. Re: GV - US Returnees to Russia ca 1914 ()
?? 7. Re: GV - US Returnees to Russia ca 1914 (Gary Martens)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 11:11:53 +0100
From: Peter Woddow <>
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Hello Susen,

I find Conrad Hofferber 1832-1880 in Frank marrided with Anna Margarethe
Boston 1857 - 1942
children born
Georg 1879
Johannes 1884
Jacob 1887
Maria Katharina 1890
Friedrich 1896

greetings from germany

Peter Woddow


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Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 11:16:05 +0100
From: Peter Woddow <>
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a Jacob Hofferber was born 1.6.1879 father Jacob *1854 ?mother Barbara
Steinm?ller.


Peter Woddow


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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 08:54:09 -0800 (PST)
From: hugh lichtenwald <>
Subject: [GV] Die Welt-Post, June 5, 1924 (Dinkel, Straub, Lauwe)
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Hallo List:
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? The following article is translated to the best of my ability.
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Page 5, Die Welt-Post, Thursday, June 5, 1924
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A Request From Russia
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(From Dinkel, Strauc and Lauwe)
?
March 30, 1924
Esteemed comrade Schneider:
? We, the undersigned, residents of the villages of Dinkel, Straub and Lauwe, Russia, Kanton Kukkus, members of the Lauwe Agricultural Credit Association, turn to you with this writing for help and support in our extremely difficult materials situation. Our associates at the Agricultural Credit Association are already discussing our lines of credit and plans. We must have help in obtaining credit? support. Local means are not sufficient and thus we here must seek strong support from outside.
? Since you are now in America and directly working for we distressed sons of the proletariat, we urgently request that you bestir our relatives and friends in America to help us repair our agricultural economy which was completely destroyed during the European slaughter, the Civil War and the terrible famine that followed. Most of us are without a single horse; many do not have a single cow or goat. An agricultural economy would not be in a worse state. Livestock and farm machinery; this is now our shortage, much as the food shortage was during the famine period. We here hope that our brethren across the ocean have not closed their hearts and that it is still possible for you to help us get back on our feet.
? We, as an active credit association, call upon you to stand with us in the bank of life, that you stand with us so we may obtain credit for wheat seed. It would make us extremely happy if our brothers would support and strengthen the important work of our Volga German Bank in supporting and promoting our progress.
? In closing we ask you, comrade Schneider, if you or any of our other brethren across the ocean have any means (monetary support) meant for us in particular, that the same be transferred through our bank in Pokrowsk for which we bespeak to?you our most cordial thanks. We also ask that you publish this letter in the German language newspapers.
? In the hope of the imminent arrival of assistance, we are:
?
Heinrich August Zeiler, Georg Heinrich Rau, August H. Lutz, Peter Ries, Friedrich Damken, Johann Georg Mehl, Peter Schneider, Jacob Peterson, G. Peter Baidin, David Wegele, Heinrich Wulf, Fried. (Rau) Wulf, G. Peterson, Gottfried Rau, Philipp Peterson, Georg Peter Lutz, Phil. Heinr. Hoelzer, Jacob Mehl, J. Hoelzer, Philipp Hoelzer, Johann Georg Lutz, Philipp Schneider, K. Grasmueck, Wilhelm Popp, J. Hoelzer and Heinr. Heinr. Rau.
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Hugh Lichtenwald, from the farm in Monetta, SC
VC, Wiesenmueller

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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 09:56:03 -0800 (PST)
From: hugh lichtenwald <>
Subject: [GV] Die Welt-Post, June 5, 1924 (Neu-Doenhof)
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Hallo List:
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? The following article is translated to the best of my ability.
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Page 5, Die Welt-Post, Thursday, June 5, 1924
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Letter from Schoolmaster Keller in Russia
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Neu-Doenhof, Kant. Frank, 4 May
Much esteemed Mr. Lorenz
? I recently received the second issue of the Welt-Post that you sent and found it very interesting. I am very happy to?have been?allowed to acquaint myself with it. I regret that I am unable to read it regularly. If it is possible for you to do so, then send me an occasional issue, I would be most grateful to you. If I were not in such a difficult situation materially I would send in a report every now and then but I cannot afford the postage.
? I greet you most cordially, also a most cordial greeting to my friend J. Gisik, his wife and children. It would please me very much to hear something from them.
?
????????????????????????????????????????Respectfully, Wilh. Keller, Schoolmaster
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Hugh Lichtenwald, from the farm in Monetta, SC
VC, Wiesenmueller

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Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 18:05:27 +0000
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Subject: [GV] GV - US Returnees to Russia ca 1914
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We there any records kept anywhere of German Volga's who came to the US and ?
returned to the homeland ca 1914, specifically from Colorado?

Elaine


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Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 19:00:46 +0000
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I was hoping maybe in some local Weld Co. CO or GV paper they might have ?
mention of the people who were leaving the US to return to GV.

Elaine


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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:24:50 -0600
From: "Gary Martens" <>
Subject: Re: [GV] GV - US Returnees to Russia ca 1914
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Go to Colorado Historic Newspapers Online and start browsing:
http://www.coloradohistoricnewspapers.org/Default/welcome.asp?skin=Colorado&;
QS=Skin=Colorado&e

Also check out the COgenweb site for Weld County:
http://theusgenweb.org/co/weld/index.html


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I was hoping maybe in some local Weld Co. CO or GV paper they might have
mention of the people who were leaving the US to return to GV.

Elaine
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