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From: Marven C Weitzel <>
Subject: Re: [GV] Heinz & Spomer of Schienstein
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 13:35:41 -0600
I got it okay. Vielen dank! Very informative. I do indexing for the
LDS familysearch project. I've indexed some of the German films, but I
haven't seen these yet. I'll probably order them thru the Family
History Center here in Cleveland, Tx.
Marven Weitzel, aka der Alte
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 09:45:33 -0800 "Jerry and Fran Goertzen"
> Most of my microfilm work has been in the Grandduchy of Hessen. The
> records I found were mostly in German and not too difficult. There
> were many different scribes recording the information and their
> handwriting differed considerably. Some, were very legible where
> others wrote with extreme flair. The sample copies you sent were
> examples of the latter. The first letter had all the flair and the
> rest of the word is barely there. This script doesn't copy well
> because the small writing almost disappears. So, I am sorry but I'm
> not able to help you much with the copies you sent. Another problem
> is that some of the scribes mixed Latin with the German because at
> the time, the German States were actually all part of the Holy Roman
> Empire. Trier, Germany was the northern capitol of the Holy Roman
> I've been lucky so far with the Hessen films but also the Family
> History Center that I use has a library volunteer of German heritage
> that can read the flair and latin so he has helped me. You might
> check your local family history center to see if they could
> recommend a Script reader for you.
> The search for Schierstein was easy since there is only one in all
> of Germany, but finding the Parish records proved more difficult.
> Schierstein is on the north side of the Rhine River, northwest of
> Mainz and Southwest of Wiesbaden. It is in present day Hessen.
> I first checked the Grandduchy of Hessen and it wasn't there so I
> had to go back in time to find the boundary changes and the nearby
> German States.
> When Catharine of Russia sent out her call for colonists, it came at
> an opportune time for many German farmers. The Seven Year War
> (1756-1763) had just ended and it had devestated most of Germany and
> the people welcomed a chance to better their life. The big
> migration started in 1765/66 on the way to Russia.
> Boundaries changed during the Seven Years War and changed again
> after the treaties that ended the war. Checking the States nearby,
> I found Schierstein in the Kingdom of Prussia, Province of Hessen
> Nassau, Regierungsbezirk Wiesbaden. This information is in Volum 9
> of the German Parish Records. The village was in the Kreis (county)
> Wiesbaden and Schierstein had its own Parish church. The parish
> records have been filmed by the LDS and are available for rental at
> your local FHC. The Schierstein records are on three microfilms
> that cover the period from 1663 to 1878. The film number 1193450,
> the same film as your copies. It was the first roll, the other two
> rolls are ..451 and 452. These films record the birth marriage,
> death and confirmation data. Reading the data direct from the film
> is better than trying to read from a copy so I would suggest trying
> to find someone that could accompany you to the FHC to help read the
> actual film.
> Since Anton Heinz (1740) mentioned he was from Altenkirchen was
> another story. There are five (5) Altenkirchens in Germany
> scattered all over. I looked for the closest one, only 33 miles
> north of Schierstein and it happens to be just east of Welburg. It
> also happens to be in the same volum (9) of German Parish Registers
> as Schierstein.
> It is in the Province of Hessen-Nassau, Regierungsbezirk, Wiesbaden,
> Oberlahn Kreis and has its own parish Altenkirchen. The LDS has
> filmed these records also. They also are on three rolls of
> microfilm and the first is #1195172. These three films go back to
> Most of this information comes from the series of books "Map Guides
> to German Parish Registers" by Kevan Hansen. They are available
> from Family Roots Publishing Co. at < www.GermanMapGuide.com > They
> have completed 33 of the proposed 55+ volumes. Each volume contains
> a brief history of the area covered as well as a timeline and a
> listing of Genealogical resources and archives. Each book has an
> index of the villages covered, with their parish by religion. It
> aalso includes the microfilm number of the parish if they are
> available. Most of the parishes are on multuple rolls of film and
> the number listed in the first one of the series. If you go to (
> www.Familysearch.org ) and enter the film number in the numer
> search, it will give you all the films for a given parish and the
> years included in each roll.
> If you are not sure which volume would have your village, go to the
> Family Roots website and click on German Map Guides. This will show
> all volumes available. Click on the Volume of interest and it will
> show the index of all villages listed in that volume. If your
> village isn't listed, go to another nearby area until you find it.
> The index does not give the Parish and other information, you will
> need to the book for that. The book of your ancestral village will
> give you a broader view of your ancestors life in Germany.
> I am sorry I could not help you with the microfilm copies you sent,
> but I hope this information will help you find some local help.
> Check with your local FHC to see if they can recommend a helper to
> read the films.
> They deal in microfilm data all the time and should know someone
> that would help you,
> Jerry Goertzen
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