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From: Calvin Baumgarten <>
Subject: Re: [GV] GER-VOLGA Digest, Vol 4, Issue 279
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:19:23 -0500
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Hello to All,

I would like to make a comment about the historical censorship that is a
potential road block to this group or any others who have interest in what
is happening today in Russia.
Much of this began when a man with the name of Morgan Williams began his
Holodomor campaign for Ukraine in which he is in fact distorting events that
took place during famine periods of the old Soviet Union. His attempt is to
create nationalism in Ukraine and divide the Ukraine from Russia's old
Empire relationship. Medvedev has said numerous times that genocide was not
just committed to Ukrainians specifically but other groups and regions also
suffered the same fate of the Bolshevik induced famines. I will attempt to
clarify this for many on the list who may not know how this worked. The
Bolshevik terror is the central componant of this horrible period
which includes the Gulags and mass executions as well as the famine
genocide. What has been instituted by Williams and his group of scholars is
to provide propaganda directed at driving this wedge deeply between Ukraine
and Russia so that American interests can capitalize on this division. This
is not about freedom this is about profit. Be clear in your understanding of
this comment about censorship. If you investigate what I am exposing here
you will see that there is a clandestine operation involved here. As a group
who were directly affected by these trajec periods it is important to
understand the politics behind it and not side or support a divisive agenda.

It seems this is a necessary time when I must expose this agenda to this
group who once were dominantly lloyal subjects of Nicolas II at the time of
the revolution. During this period there was a constant revolutionary
threat. The Czars secret agency called the Ohkrana or security were created
to protect the Nobles and officials of the Kingdom. Many assassinations
attempted by these so called international revolutionaries were successful.
As a result this agency existed to protect the Czar and his family. This
happened after Czar Alexander II lost his life. To bring you up to date the
Ohkrana was the precursor to the NKVD the KGB and even the CIA. Most secret
service agencies are modeled after this organization. They are the most
secretive clandestine operatives evolved. Today the Ukraine uses this same
name for security... I can't stress enough that the loyalty existed between
the settlers and the Czar.... There are only fractional individuals from the
settlements that opposed the Czar and were dealt with. Also once a person
was disillusioned by the Bolshevik revolutionaries fictitious vision you
were no longer free to disagree or the result would be certain death.
If you will recall the Manifesto invitation was extended to our group with
exclusion of Jews. This element is actually where all this new turmoil
settles. The facts of this can be found in the CIA archives at the Hoover
Institute and in the old books now hard to find. If you want an eye opening
book to read, the title is An Eye for and Eye which discloses concentration
camps operated by the Jews shortly after after WWII. The author is a Jewish
journalist who received many death threats for his exposing what is in his
book. He has since perished. During the Revolution most of the revolutionary
groups were Jewish dominated but disguised with the gentile surnames.... The
Bolshevik the Menshevicks and the Bundists were dominating forces and should
be called insurgents. There practice was to pump out the propaganda of a
better life and who was responsible for a suffering society. The facts are
that the Jewish insurgency was disrupting all modes of manufacture,
transportation and agriculture and manipulated these facets of society to
failure. this included the loss of the Russo Japanese War and WWI as well as
the 1920's famine and 1932-33 famine and of course the Murder of the Czar
and his family. Most of the officials in charge were ethnic Jews. Those that
weren't may have been marriage bound or if neither applied opposition to the
proletariat would result in death or disappearance.
This condensed format leads us today to Russia and censorship. Today Russia
as well as Ukraine are considered Anti Semitic.Russia's reasons for this are
as I have explained. You will not know this unless you have visited and have
spoken to those who have experienced it. In Ukraine Williams is attempting
to counter this anti Semitic feeling by obscuring the history taught in
Ukraine and fulfill his agenda to divide the two Nations peacefully if
possible but with conflict if necessary. This is where you as ancestral
subjects must reject claims by this distortion agenda. Those same Jewish
groups now exist here in the USA and they will try once again to overthrow
Russia with its smear campaign so they can control the old Empire. It is
beginning to surface now......ally you have to do is pay close attention to
the activist movements going on in that region
I want to make clear that what I am exposing in not provided to create anti
semitism but to make you aware of the real facts that have been hidden for
generations except for those who remained in the Russian Empire. These
attempts by these groups are real there are great financiers involved in
this and the insurgency is working within the Ukrainian government.
There is also a good possibility that George Sorros is responsible for much
of this. Be aware of what is happening here . Many of our relatives still
are present in both Ukraine and Russia and the eastern part of Ukraine
considers themselves part of Russia It is our responsibility to see to it
that we are not part of the propaganda push. Russia is right in its claim
and The US backed Yeushencko is not gaining ground on this because most
Ukrainians remember what happened and who are responsible. In WWII the
Ukrainians as well as the Russian German weren't fighting against Russia but
the CCommunist Bolshevik of the Soviet Union. They knew what they were
fighting for and this nation ignored it. They sent most of them back and man
many died then. So here we are once again watching a group try to make
destruction upon our ancestral homeland. The questions to ask do we sit by
and stay silent. I have asked for a public apology to one of Williams
writers in which he only referred to Jews who suffered in Ukraine and
Russia. I made it clear we as a group were also specifically harmed by the
Jewish dominated NKVD and that I was offended by his claims. I have yet to
receive this apology. The hope I am sure is I will go away. Therefore in the
memory of all of our families that suffered I have chosen to be a thorn of
truth. I hope others here will do the same. I have been researching this for
sometime now and didn't want to provide immature exposure but times are
moving quickly and the agenda is set. I now have no choice. If what I have
written has offended anyone I apologize for doing so but I do not apologize
for exposing the truth.

A side note: I would suggest to all of you that if this censorship is a
concern then I would recommend you contact the http://www.kremlin.ru/eng/ I
would also advise staying away from the petitions of propaganda unless we as
a group are submitting one. You will note the Christian Empire Crest is now
the Russian symbol and not the hammer and sickle of the Bolshevik. There is
a contact option directly to President Medvedev. Tell him how you feel and
what your hopes are. Thanks to all.

Calvin

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 6:10 PM, <> wrote:

>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Re: help needed for a research project ()
> 2. Unbelieveable ! History censorship : "Decree againt the
> falsification of History" (Vera Beljakova)
> 3. to horst (Vera Beljakova)
> 4. thank you for your help/list of names (Tanja Schell)
> 5. for Vera (Bradley Hepfner)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 02:54:21 EDT
> From:
> Subject: Re: [GV] help needed for a research project
> To:
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
>
> In a message dated 7/13/09 10:53:46 AM,
> writes:
>
>
> > [GV] help needed for a research project
> >
> Tanja,
>
> One area that you need to explore is a case that went all of the way to the
> US Supreme Court called "Meyer vs. Nebraska." During the WWI years,
> Nebraska and several other states passed laws that forbid the teaching of
> any
> modern foreign language to a child who had not passed the 8th grade. This
> was
> aimed primarily at Lutheran Day Schools in Nebraska because they were still
> teaching religion and Bible history in German, although they taught all
> other subjects in English and fulfilled the Nebraska law in every way.
>
> At Zion Lutheran School in Hampton, Nebraska, the teacher, Robert Meyer,
> and one of his young students were arrested for studying Bible history in
> German during the LUNCH HOUR. The case went all of the way to the US
> Supreme
> Court where Mr. Meyer finally won the right to practice a legitimate
> profession, teaching, and parents won the right to choose the kind of
> education they
> wanted for their children as long as all state requirements were met.
>
> In his decision, Justice McReynolds stated that although the state "may do
> much . . . in order to improve the quality of its citizens," the statute
> exceeded "the limitations on the power of the state and conflict[ed] with
> rights assured" to Meyer. The "liberty" protected by the Due Process clause
> "[w]ithout doubt...denotes not merely freedom from bodily restraint but
> also the
> right of the individual to contract, to engage in any of the common
> occupations of life, to acquire useful knowledge, to marry, establish a
> home and
> bring up children, to worship God according to the dictates of his own
> conscience, and generally to enjoy those privileges long recognized?as
> essential to
> the orderly pursuit of happiness by free men."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Ruth
>
>
>
> **************
> Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals.
> (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000003)
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:40:00 +0200
> From: "Vera Beljakova" <>
> Subject: [GV] Unbelieveable ! History censorship : "Decree againt the
> falsification of History"
> To: "" <>,
> "" <>
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Unbelievable!
> Just read....
> A decree against the "Falsification of History detrimental to?Russia's
> National Interest".
> Bye bye investigation in 20th c. genocides, massacres, Stalinism, Gulags,
> tortures, etc..
> Only white wash wanted.
>
> vb.
>
>
>
>
>
> ??Subject:Decree againt the falsification of History and Tishkov's circular
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> Please find below the English version of the official protest of the
> Italian
> Societ for the Study of Contemporary History (www.sissco.it) against the
> application of Russia's recent decree on "the falsification of history to
> the detriment of Russia's interests". The protest has also been been signed
> by the Italian Association of Slavicists (
> http://www.associazioneslavisti.it/).
>
> all the best,
>
> andrea graziosi, President
> Societ? Italiana per lo Studio della Storia Contemporanea
>
> ************************
>
> Societ? Italiana per lo Studio della Storia Contemporanea
>
> SISSCo (www.sissco.it)
>
>
>
> July 2, 2009
>
>
>
> The Italian Society for the Study of Contemporary History is an
> associationof approximately 700 hundred Italian professors and
> researchers of 19
> th and 20th Century history. It has always negatively viewed any state
> interference in the scholarly debate. We deem such interference a threat to
> the advancement of knowledge and have been concerned by the Russian
> Federation President?s decree of May 15, 2009, ?*On the commission to
> counter attempts at falsifying history that damage Russia?s interests*.?
>
>
>
> The letter that Academician V.A. Tishkov, Academic Undersecretary, History
> and Philology Section, and Director of the History Section, Russian Academy
> of Science, signed on June 23 in application of the above mentioned decree
> confirms our fears.
>
>
>
> The letter asks ?the directors of the Institutes of the History and
> Philology Section, Russian Academy of Science? to provide ?an annotated (*
> annotirovannyi*) list of the cultural-historical falsifications in the
> fields of study your Institute is engaged in (indicating the
> falsifications?
> main sources, the individuals or the organizations producing or promoting a
> specific falsification, the potential danger such falsification poses to
> Russia?s interest, and preliminary proposals for the scientific confutation
> of the falsification in question).?
>
>
>
> These words do not need any comment. We are amazed that a
> distinguished
> colleague could put his reputation at risk without considering the impact
> the letter he signed will have in deterring intellectual freedom in the
> Section he directs and in his country, as well as on how his actions will
> be
> judged by the international scholarly community. It is in fact evident to
> us
> that conceiving historical research this way will cause serious damage to
> the interests and prestige of Russia as a community of free citizens and as
> the home of a rich and lively culture.
>
>
>
> Fully convinced that only through a free and unfettered debate even the
> most
> absurd and unpalatable theories will eventually suffer defeat, and that any
> repressive intervention on the part of the state must be resisted, the
> Italian Society for the Study of Contemporary History urges the
> international community of scholars, and in particular other scholarly
> societies, to make our Russian colleagues feel our support and those who
> promoted or executed such decree feel our reprobation.
>
>
>
> This is especially important because similar measures are being discussed,
> and at times adopted in other countries, including some in the European
> Union.
> In these cases ? as in Russia ? self-proclaimed ?good intentions? are
> paving
> the way to the degradation of that freedom which is, and must remain, the
> only light directing the scholarly community.
>
>
>
>
>
> Societ? Italiana per lo Studio della Storia Contemporanea
>
> SISSCo (www.sissco.it)
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:53:59 +0200
> From: "Vera Beljakova" <>
> Subject: [GV] to horst
> To: "" <>
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hi Horst,
>
> My mail to you at "hotmail" is being rejected.? In fact, all my mails to
> all "hotmail" addresses
> is being rejected. [ But try to read my message below }.? I'm trying to
> tell you that your wonderful work needs a wider reading public and you ought
> to send it to
> Dr. Michael Miller, North Dakota Uni.,
>
>
> Vera.?
>
>
>
>
> ?Subject:Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
>
>
>
>
>
>
> This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.
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> From: "Vera Beljakova"
> To: ""
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 11:45:40 +0200
> Subject: Horst, now my mail to you is rejected
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 04:55:35 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Tanja Schell <>
> Subject: [GV] thank you for your help/list of names
> To: Ger-Volga-Newsletter Ger-Volga-Newsletter <>
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Dear Listers,
> ?
> Thanks a lot for the many of you who shared your family stories with me. I
> really appreciate you taking time to help me on this one.
> ?
> On another note, I would like to share with you the news about a list being
> compiled at the German-Russian website called "Die Geschichte der
> Wolgadeutschen" on the family names that visitors to the website are doing
> active research on.
> You?ll find the list here:
> http://www.wolgadeutschen.borda.ru/?1-0-0-00000673-000-0-0#112
> ?
> Again, there are not all of the names people ask about on the list and more
> names are expected to be added later on. If you see a family name you are
> interested in, try to contact the website?s creator Alexander Spack to ask
> him about the address of the people doing research on that family name by
> sending a message to .
> Usually, you?ll see a nickname of a website?s user next to a family name in
> question.
> ?
> E.g.:
> 1) ??????/Gertje aus Orlowskoje (Selma)
> The family name of Gertje from the village of Orlowskoje is being
> researched by a user nicknamed Selma.
> 2) ?????/Hentze, Hense. Genze, Gense (leitenant)
> http://wolgadeutschen.borda.ru/?1-0-0-00000752-000-0-0-1237837068
> ?
> The family name of Hense/Gense is being researched by the user nicknamed
> "leitenant" and there is also a link to a discussion thread on this family
> name, though it?s all in Russian only.
> ?
> Good luck with finding?some fellow researchers of the names you are looking
> for!
> ?
> Tanja Schell
> Munich, Germany
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:23:49 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Bradley Hepfner <>
> Subject: [GV] for Vera
> To:
> Message-ID: <>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Hello Vera,
>
> Are you the Vera that is friends with the woman that runs (until recently)
> the Engels archives? My Dad and I just returned from Saratov where we stayed
> for a week visiting Engels and the area villages that are part of our
> family's heritage. We had a nice tour with this woman at the archives and
> she mentioned a "Vera" that is a very dear friend that lives in South Africa
> who helps her with website type of stuff. She told me about her grandson
> looking for a penpal that he can practise his english with so hopefully we
> will email my daughter as she is the same age.
> Have you ever gotten any information from the Samara archives? We were told
> that the one census we are looking for should be there but we didn't know
> there even was an archive there.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brad
>
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