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Subject: Re: [GV] Hamburg dates?
Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 20:19:48 -0500
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I have not followed this real close and have not worked with the Hamburg
website so I do not fully understand the question. It appears that you (Kim)
have the date of arrival in New York that you wish to relate/verify the
departure date from Hamburg (?). Generally speaking, the trip from Hamburg
takes/took 14 days (+/-). Knowing the name of the ship and the arrival date,
I believe one can check the book of departures/arrivals at the LDS Family
History Center (FHC) and come up with the Hamburg departure date (in this
case) through a quick process of elimination.

I am not sure if this is what you are looking for or not. My personal
experience was that my dad's information, thought to be the arrival date,
turned out being the departure date when I was able to research the LDS
reference material.

If you are not close to a FHC, I would be glad to check for you if this
would be of help and you contacted me directly with some details.

Don Loose
Warren, Mich.

> From: "Kim Penrod" <>
> Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 11:19:50 -0600
> To:
> Subject: Re: [GV] Hamburg dates?
> Resent-From:
> Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 10:19:54 -0700
> Patrice:
> When you make a payment for further information, the website does give the
> day and month of departure from Hamburg. I have not received a reply from
> anyone at the Hamburg website. However, I did notice that they do ask for a
> departure date if one is known. And the format that they request it in is:
> dd/mm/yyyy. I will let everyone know if I find out any further information.
> Kim Penrod
>> From: Patrice Miller <>
>> To:
>> Subject: Re: [GV] Hamburg dates?
>> Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 22:37:11 -0800
>> Kim,
>> Did you ever get an answer to your Hamburg dates? this is a really good
>> question so I thought I would look into it.
>> I have located a few people in the Hamburg search site that I know
>> their names and the ship name and dates. I believe the only date
>> information that appears on the web site is the year.
>> For example
>> A1898.0113/99.0152
>> This is for George Befus on the SS Moravia from Hamburg to NY arrriving
>> April 26, 1898.
>> Clearly the year is in the first group of numbers. But the middle group
>> of numbers, between the period, do not appear to be dates. Perhaps it is
>> a ship number. I have been able to determine that the last 4 digits are
>> some sort of line number. You will find members in a family in
>> consecutive number order, 0152, 0153, 0154 etc. as is this Befus
>> family.
>> Also all the different families that are on the same ship, all have
>> .0113/99. as the middle numbers. I really think this is the ship id,
>> perhaps they start with ship 1 at the beginning of the year? It would be
>> interesting to find out.
>> So I don't believe the full date is buried somewhere in numbers that
>> appear on the website. At least we get the year.
>> If you have discovered something else please let the entire mail list
>> know.
>> Patrice Miller
>> Kim Penrod wrote:
>>> Dear Listers:
>>> When the Hamburg immigration site sends you results of a search, are the
>>> dates formatted as dd/mm/yyyy or mm/dd/yyyy? I need to make sure that a
>>> transcription error was not made as the dates do not correlate with the
>>> arrival of my ancestors in New York. I was on the Hamburg website and
>> was
>>> unable to find any information on this.
>>> Thanks!
>>> Kim Peenrod
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