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From: "A. John Birkholz" <>
Subject: Re: Replying To A Message
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 02:39:45 -0600
References: <T3N17.4728$4B5.29155@news-server.bigpond.net.au>, <003e01c10902$ed3a73a0$073f0ecf@ajb> <ru8mkt44vc23l5q2d857q3bb82jimit5tu@4ax.com>


Good day folks,

Most of the following would have been stripped/snipped by me

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Lee Bieber" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: Replying To A Message


> On 9 Jul 2001 23:44:52 -0600, (A. John Birkholz)
> declaimed the following in soc.genealogy.misc:
>
> > If you do in fact have a clickable link in my "Re: Replying To A
Message"
> > messages to "Re: Has RootsWeb Review gone berserk?" then I have an
unknown
> > virus or they are coming from somewhere else.
> >
> I'm afraid I have to add evidence that you are incorrect. I just
> tracked back to the first message on this thread -- your name, dated the
> 7th.
>
> Turned on "view headers" and found
>
> hdr> From: (A. John Birkholz)
> hdr> Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.misc
> hdr> Subject: Replying To A Message
> hdr> Date: 7 Jul 2001 23:41:53 -0600
> hdr> Organization: RootsWeb.com, Inc. News
> hdr> Lines: 19
> hdr> Sender:
> hdr> Message-ID: <002101c10770$2f9351c0$>
> hdr> References: <T3N17.4728$>
> hdr> NNTP-Posting-Host: newsfeed.rootsweb.com
>
> Clicking on the contents of that references: header put me into
> alt.genealogy (on a message cross-posted to alt.genealogy and
> soc.genealogy.misc) starting:
>
> hdr> From: "johnf" <>
> hdr> Newsgroups: alt.genealogy,soc.genealogy.misc
> hdr> References: <>
> <>
> <> <>
> <9i4j4a$5j9$1@slb0.atl.mindspring.net> <>
> <9i4vmu$6ra$1@slb2.atl.mindspring.net> <>
> <9i6fr5$nh2$2@slb7.atl.mindspring.net> <>
> <9i7e1c$r3r$1@slb3.atl.mindspring.net> <>
> hdr> Subject: Re: Has RootsWeb Review gone berserk?
>
> Note the subject?
>
> In Agent, all those reference: and message-id: headers are
> clickable.
>
> Based upon the reference line, you do appear to have started the
> "Replying to..." thread by hitting "reply" to a different thread, and
> then changing the subject line. Your newsreader "knew" you had hit
> reply, and inserted the reference line to the original message, even if
> you had wiped out all contents in the body region. Newsreaders that use
> reference lines for threading would then have displayed your new subject
> as part of the old "has rootsweb..." thread.
>
> No virus... normal behavior for a newsreader. A true "new
> message" has no reference: headers, follow-ups/replies get a reference
> to the parent message (and most newsreaders will chain all the
> references from that message too, as the second quote shows, so the
> entire chain of discussion can be rebuilt).
>

But I am not using a "newsreader". My "reader" doesn't have those
clickable links. It should have been obvious from the start that I am
not using a "newsreader". So that leaves me wondering why it was ever
brought up in the first place.

A. John Birkholz
963 McIver Road
Great Falls, MT 59404




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