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From: "wim prange" <>
Subject: RE: [GENBOX] Omitting Attributes in Reports
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:13:13 +0200
In-Reply-To: <44B62D12.3090301@twcny.rr.com>


Hi Polly,

Text-attributes are the Detail-fields of a special type of Events. To
understand how it works, go to View > Event Types and select for instance
the Death-event type. The original event-type has "Cause of Death" as label
for the Detail-field. When you tick the box "Attribute" in this window, you
will have created another Text-attribute: "Cause of Death". Try it out, you
can switch back later without any problem.

On the Attributes-tab of an Individual, you will see a new entry named Cause
of Death. When the calendar-icon is white, there is currently no death-event
for that individual; when it is yellow, there is a death-event present for
that individual.
When you fill in a Cause of Death on the Attribute-tab for an individual
with no Death-event, you will simultaneously create a Death-event for that
Individual and the calendar-icon will become yellow.

Knowing this you can use this in several ways. For instance:
* you can omit the [T]-code from the template for attribute-type of events,
knowing that you can include it by including Attributes in the
Report-generator if you wish.
* you can include the [T]-code on the template, knowing that you can omit
*all* detail-fields from the report by omitting the Detail-part of the
template in the Report-generator (Content > Event parts).

When you select to print Attributes in a narrative report, those attributes
are printed at the end of the individual's section, not in the narrative
itself. The purpose for this, as I understand it, is highlighting certain
aspects of an Individual which are not only relevant on the day of the
event, but for a longer period of time, like religious affiliations and
physical descriptions.

Gr. Wim


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Polly Held [mailto:]
> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 1:23 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [GENBOX] Omitting Attributes in Reports
>
> Ulrich,
> I tested this feature to see how it works, and the results
> were as you have outlined, with one exception.
>
> - not excluded in event + not omitted on content tab =
> sentence stayed in
> - excluded in event + not omitted on content tab = sentence was
> omitted*****
> - not excluded in event + omitted on content tab = sentence stayed in
> - excluded in event + omitted on content tab = sentence was
> omitted*****
>
> See the second and fourth scenarios above, which begs the
> questions (put forth to the developers and not you, Ulrich)
> for what purpose are the check boxes for omitting text
> attributes on the content tab for report creation? Are there
> text attributes somewhere within the program that can be
> omitted solely from that content tab? It appears that that
> option on that tab is useless if it requires the text to be
> excluded first in the event before it performs a function.
> If the check boxes for omitting text attributes on the
> content tab perform any task at all, they are redundant at
> best, since you have to first exclude the text attributes
> from the events themselves, and, to a new user of the program
> such as myself, the purpose of those check boxes on the
> content tab are then very confusing. However, perhaps there
> is some aspect of this feature that I am not understanding. <g>
>
> Thank you, though, for helping me. I appreciate all the help
> from you and the other listers as the program is quite involved.
>
> Polly
>
> Ulrich Thoma wrote:
>
> > Hi Polly,
> >
> > the attributes you want to omit are Text Attributes. And those
> > attributes are linked to a "defining event", therefore you
> must also
> > unselect the defining event, if you want to suppress the output.
> >
> > Here is the section from the helpfile:
> >
> > - Text attributes have a type and a text value. Text attributes are
> > linked to a defining event.
> > - Flag attributes are named check boxes. A check indicates the
> > individual "has" the attribute identified by the flag name.
> >
> > Only the flag attributes can be omitted by setting the attributes
> > output to "omit", the text attributes must be de-selected twice
> > (attributes and events) I hope this helps.
> >
> > Ulrich
> >
> >
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: "Polly Held"
> > <>
> > An: <>
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Juli 2006 13:23
> > Betreff: [GENBOX] Omitting Attributes in Reports
> >
> >
> >> On the Content tab of the Descendant Narrative report view I am
> >> selecting for Attributes "Omit", however, the attributes are still
> >> showing in the report.
> >>
> >> ex. for myself :
> >>
> >> Polly had a total of 2 children. Polly had a total of 1 marriage.
> >> Polly was employed as a Secretary.
> >>
> >> Are not those three sentences supposed to be suppressed
> when I select
> >> omit the attributes?
> >>
> >> Polly
> >>
> >>
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