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From: wim prange <>
Subject: Re: [GENBOX] Ellipses in Citation Annotations
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 04:29:42 +0200
References: <CHEMKKAJHOKJPIEOPLKDGEAGFOAA.clcasper@sprynet.com>
In-Reply-To: <CHEMKKAJHOKJPIEOPLKDGEAGFOAA.clcasper@sprynet.com>


Nope, it's got nothing to do with laziness. Two-spaces are remnants from
typewriting days with monospaced fonts. Proportional fonts, dtp-programs
or wordprocessors don't need it.
With regard to ellipsis, you might want to take it up with the
Unicode-consortium itself? http://www.unicode.org/



Cheri Casper schreef:
> Nope, used by other reference guides as well. When I was teaching business
> subjects, it was *always* an error to omit the spaces between the periods.
> And I think it looks like crap. Some of these "new" conventions are simply
> due to laziness, like the trend to space only once after end-of-sentence
> punctuation. Two lazy to hit the space bar twice. Appears to be the same
> with this new-fangled ellipses deal. Too lazy to add the spaces. Also
> responsible for the change from two spaces between the state abbreviation
> and the zip code to the now-accepted convention of a single space.
>
> See The Gregg Reference Manual, by William A. Sabin, Glencoe-McGraw Hill.
> The South-Western reference manual will also show the spaces but mine is
> packed in a box someplace and my other reference manual is at the office.
> For those unfamiliar with these texts, Gregg (as in "Gregg shorthand") and
> South-Western are the two leaders in the business textbook publishing
> industry and their books are used in educational institutions across the
> U.S. (perhaps other places as well; can't address that). Even the Webster's
> Dictionary example shows the spaces. And, yes, the Chicago Manual of Style
> shows them with spaces (em spaces to be exact).
>
> CheriC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wim prange [mailto:]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 6:27 PM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [GENBOX] Ellipses in Citation Annotations
>
>
> Now he protests, Alt+0133 is the typographical official "ellipsis"
> (horizontal ellipsis to be more precise, there is a vertical one too)
> and is the real McCoy.
> Three nonbreaking-spaced dots is just a stylistic convention (only used
> by the CMS?)
>
> Gr. Wim
>
>
> Cheri Casper schreef:
>
>>Again, she protests, these aren't true ellipses.
>>
>>CheriC
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Kathy Lenerz [mailto:]
>>Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 5:18 PM
>>To:
>>Subject: Re: [GENBOX] Ellipses in Citation Annotations
>>
>>
>>Cheri Casper wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>How does one insert ellipses in Annotations and have them output
>>
>>correctly?
>>
>>
>>>They look when done in the standard manner (. space . space .) but when
>>>output you simply get
>>>
>>>word. Nextword
>>
>>
>>... works OK
>>. . . doesn't work
>>
>>
>>KQL
>>
>>
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