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From: wim prange <>
Subject: Re: [GENBOX] Ancestor Charts
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2005 22:02:20 +0200
References: <CHEMKKAJHOKJPIEOPLKDIENOFNAA.clcasper@sprynet.com> <42B47646.7040404@worldnet.att.net>
In-Reply-To: <42B47646.7040404@worldnet.att.net>


Hi Kathy,

Can you (and/or Phil?) post an example of a messy chart somewhere
online? Or else sent me a file privately so I can put it online. This
will maybe help clarify the problems you're both are seeing.

When you're unable to save the file as a graphic-file, print it as a
pdf-file instead: CutePDF (http://www.cutepdf.com, freeware) or PDF955
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Gr. Wim

Kathy Lenerz schreef:
> Phil Warn notes that:
>
>> Charts seem to have deteriorated.
>
>
> I would agree. My concern at this point is with ancestor charts. From
> my perspective, the problems are related to the handling of duplicate
> ancestors (even when they're not duplicates, as Cheri discovered). In
> GB 3.3, there was an alignment problem with duplicate ancestors. The
> commercial chart makers also reported cross-link problems. Some changes
> were made in GB 3.4 to accommodate the latter. As a result, the
> alignment problem I had in 3.3 is now, in 3.4, both an alignment problem
> and a mess (can't think of any other way to describe it) among the
> duplicate's family. Moreover, ancestors are arranged differently
> depending on how many generations are specified, even with the exact
> same report options.
> Because charts are so visual, I find the problems hard to describe, but
> they're definitely there, and definitely a major problem.
>
> Kathy
>
> Cheri Casper wrote:
>
>> Wim - The person in question should NOT, however, be duplicated. This
>> is a
>> very simple 4 person chart: man, two wives, and one child. Child is
>> connected to biological mother AND to adoptive step-mother. I've made
>> charts for these very same children in the past and did not get this. In
>> this case, the father is getting TWO boxes when he should only be
>> generating
>> ONCE. I solved that problem by overlaying one box on top of the
>> other, but
>> couldn't get rid of the [A]. In this case, if this is indeed correct,
>> just
>> seems plain silly to have a duplicate. It's not like those families
>> where
>> cousins marry cousins.
>>
>> And as I said earlier, I've made charts for these children in the past
>> and
>> did NOT get a duplicate and I've not changed any settings. In fact, I
>> used
>> the customized report that I've used previously for them.
>>
>> CheriC
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wim prange [mailto:]
>> Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 10:22 AM
>> To:
>> Subject: Re: [GENBOX] Ancestor Charts
>>
>>
>> Hi CheriC.
>>
>> This means this individual is a "duplicate ancestor", there will be
>> another box with and [A] in it on the chart. You can change this setting
>> on the Chart's Layout-tab (it will complicate the drawing of the chart
>> though, I prefer the duplicate ancestor-setting) or you can change the
>> "Link Cross Reference Font" on the Links-tab if the red font annoys you.
>>
>>
>> Helpfile:
>> "Duplicate Ancestor
>> Ancestor charts may lead to the same ancestor by more than one path.
>> When the duplicate ancestor option is checked, this second occurrence
>> will be handled by adding a duplicate box, with reference text added to
>> the original and duplicate boxes to tie them together. Ancestors of the
>> duplicate ancestor will only be shown on the first box. The reference
>> text will contain a unique letter code for each duplicate ancestor,
>> beginning with "[A]" for the first pair of duplicate ancestor boxes. The
>> reference text will be drawn in the Link Cross Reference Font.
>>
>> When this option is not checked, a single box for the ancestor will be
>> drawn with a crosslink to the second reference."
>>
>> Gr. Wim
>>
>>
>> Cheri Casper schreef:
>>
>>> I've not made any ancestor charts since just before Christmas 2003
>>> but did
>>> so today. I notice that in the box for the Ancestor of So & So,
>>> there is
>>
>>
>> a
>>
>>> red [A] before the name. This didn't used to appear. How can I make it
>>
>>
>> go
>>
>>> away? Personally I don't like it and think it confusing.
>>>
>>> CheriC
>>>
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